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I'm constantly wondering about the ideas of women in some erotic stories. I constantly feel that it is unrealistic to portray a woman

-- getting off on being called a "whore" or a "slut";

-- actually finding pleasure in sucking a penis to the point of seeking this activity out above their own pleasure;

-- calling their mouths or themselves as "cum hungry".

I understand the desire to please and temporarily acquiesce to a male fantasy of domination, but is it realistic to think women would thing and act this way normally?
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I think in the heat of a moment of heated sex or roleplay a lot of woman would be aroused by the scenarios you describe. It's not simply acquiescing to male domination, but an active exploration of their own fantasies. Certainly not all woman. But enough so that it's not unrealistic.
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I guess it comes down to suspension of disbelief. It's up to the author to make it feel real enough within the context of the story. Of course every reader is going to approach a story differently. What I find plausible, you might find ridiculous (or vice versa). So you can't please everyone, but something something self-pleasure.... I'll think up the rest of that later.

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-- actually finding pleasure in sucking a penis to the point of seeking this activity out above their own pleasure;


Could not the same question be asked for people who enjoy going down on a gal and eating pussy? The guy I'm with seems to enjoy it and seeks it out above his own pleasure sometimes. It even brings him pleasure, you know.
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Could not the same question be asked for people who enjoy going down on a gal and eating pussy? The guy I'm with seems to enjoy it and seeks it out above his own pleasure sometimes. It even brings him pleasure, you know.


Your guy is a very wise man, indeed. Keep him.YIB4ZlqoxGWqNMIb

I personally find giving oral to either sex a turn-on, whether it's to orgasm or just foreplay.
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The first two things are very realistic. Dirty talk is hot. I don't know why. There's something about the heat of the moment that invites language that may normally be deemed insulting. Blowjobs are hot, too. Giving someone pleasure is a massive turn on. The third I'm not so sure.
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As others have mentioned, I think the proper mindset is key to being able to enjoy dirty talk, especially if it is really filthy or would be degrading outside of the bedroom. It helps a lot if your partner is confident and can sell it. There are things I'll say and do in bed that I would not find hot during my normal day, but I'm naked and turned on so it feels good to just go with it in the moment. I really enjoy giving oral. In my experience the women and men that don't like to give/receive oral have usually had a bad experience or a bad partner.

As far as stories go, I read and get aroused by situations and kinks that I would never introduce in real life. If the author is good, then I can read and enjoy a story about just about anything.
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dirty talk can make everything better. not like i'd want some random person to call me a slut at a dinner party, but in the bedroom with the right person, it's a total turn on.

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I can't imagine sex without dirty talk. A great partner can dish it out and is greatly turned on by taking it.
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It helps a lot if your partner is confident and can sell it.


Personally, I can't sell it. There's no way for me to call my wife a dirty little cum slut (or whatever) without both of us bursting into laughter.

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I feel like a lot of it is sloppy writing (no offense) because you can easily type something like, "fuck her in the pussy and cum all over that slut's ass" but saying it like "he purposefully slipped his erect manhood between the edges of her mound and with a resounding burst let his masculine cream cascade down the hills of her backside" is more artful. Erotica is about interpreting, and giving the reader a sense of imagination through articulation and switching up the verbs and adjectives. Also if anyone ever called me a dirty cumslut (or whatever) in bed I would probably knock them the f*ck out. Like surely you have more depth to your lexicon than dumb shit you would discover in a porno.
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I feel like a lot of it is sloppy writing (no offense) because you can easily type something like, "fuck her in the pussy and cum all over that slut's ass" but saying it like "he purposefully slipped his erect manhood between the edges of her mound and with a resounding burst let his masculine cream cascade down the hills of her backside" is more artful.


Not always. I feel that as an author, you should try not to draw too much attention to yourself by getting carried away with poeticism and flowery language, especially when "Fucking her in the pussy and cumming all over the slut's ass" is both more natural to the situation, and less pretentious. However, we've all got our own styles, and ultimately you should do whatever works for you.

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Also if anyone ever called me a dirty cumslut (or whatever) in bed I would probably knock them the f*ck out.


Fair enough.

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Personally, I can't sell it. There's no way for me to call my wife a dirty little cum slut (or whatever) without both of us bursting into laughter.


You should be able to laugh during sex and not take it too seriously, that's great imo.

I should not have used the word "sell" because that implies that you have to convince your partner that what you have is worth buying. Dirty talk should be whatever feels natural to you. I can tell immediately if there is a script running because the words inevitably sound forced and unnatural, which is obviously not sexy. The best dirty talkers just don't give a shit and say whatever pops into their head at even given moment. This may be vulgar, raunchy, weird, dirty, sweet, horny, kinky, or any combination of the above.

One guy might talk about how sexy I look with a cock in my mouth, how good my lips and tongue feel, describe sensations, and make me imagine what he's going to do to me next.

Another may be rougher, grunt and growl more, fewer words, more physicality. Then, when they do call me a slut, whore, etc., its fucking hot because in that moment, I am a filthy slut.

For me, both scenarios are super hot because when they are comfortable and real, then I can relax and let myself go. Authenticity is a major turn-on, and for me, results in a way harder orgasm.
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Sorry, my first response was a really insulting answer. Forget I wrote it. Sorry to MallardFiona.

Language like that could probably work if someone was trying to write Regency or Victorian style romance, but it's overly flowery for a modern work. There should be a middle ground between crass and flowery.
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I think that yes, all three are reasonable and realistic.

Slut/whore isn't always negative in a sexual situation. You're getting a BJ... "Yes, take it... take it...." Your dick probes into her tight throat. "You beautiful, fucking whore."

Same with with cum-hungry. I can honestly say I've never used that term in real life, but I have said, "Baby, come over. I'm hungry for you."

The act of the BJ and the taste isn't what I enjoy. It's his reaction. And I have made a show of begging for the opportunity to give one, just because I knew it would drive him nuts.
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Yep. All three are perfectly realistic. The first two are things that I have enjoyed recently and regularly. I have had a number of my female partners over the years who also enjoy this. As a note, it does not have to be a fantasy of male dominance. It can be a fantasy of female dominance, agender, transgender or nonbinary dominance, or just dominance because that's what the person is into.

I do really like sucking cock. Specifically, and personally. It gets me off to get him off. I have mixed feelings about cum in my mouth. Really depends on the human, if they have earned it, and of course, how their cum tastes. It might be worth noting that I like going down on women much more than men, and the point stands either way. Performing oral sex can be fantastic and amazing and arousing and satisfying. I sometimes like to get my partners off that way and then I can be done - as long as they are willing to reciprocate. I often find that men are far less appreciative, and it's that which turns me off about sucking cock occasionally, not actually the sucking of the cock.
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I'm constantly wondering about the ideas of women in some erotic stories. I constantly feel that it is unrealistic to portray a woman

-- getting off on being called a "whore" or a "slut";

-- actually finding pleasure in sucking a penis to the point of seeking this activity out above their own pleasure;

-- calling their mouths or themselves as "cum hungry".

I understand the desire to please and temporarily acquiesce to a male fantasy of domination, but is it realistic to think women would thing and act this way normally?



You must know a lot of prim and frigid women. For women who love sex, these things are totally realistic!
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I'll concede to that point. I just feel really awkward when I'm writing and it's overly crass. I think there should definitely be a balance.
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I have known all three scenarios to be completely feasible and true. Of course, as others have said it depends on the person as well as the timing. Today it is a turn-on, tomorrow not as much.

I refrain from using whore as it denotes payment, not actions. I have known women that melt when called a slut or other such terms, some even much more degrading. But as Sprite said they would not be so enthusiastic if it were in the middle of Thanksgiving dinner or a euchre game. I have known those that if you DARE call them such things you will NEVER see the promised land. You have to know your partner.

As far as oral, I for one LOVE to lick and be licked. I have on several occasions limited the evening to me pleasing her without the possibility of a return. But I adore giving orgasms and can only assume (or maybe it is just wishful thinking) that some women may find the same pleasure in sucking cock.

I have been told many times that my partner was 'hungry' for me, maybe the word cum was not there but was implied, although I have had some that have no problem being a cum slut so they would not hesitate to tell me there were hungry for cum.

You also limit the desire to a male dominance thing and I assure you that most of the women that I have had such intimate dealing with can be much more verbal and aggressive in talking when they are with a woman than with a man. I have been amazed at the language between them, but those same women can also become innocent and shy in different situations. It is all relative to the desires at that moment.

Fiona, I agree that sometimes the language can be ... cleaned up and express the same ideas and I do love the way you write and find it very sexy. Still, there are times when I just want down and dirty so the prose is not necessary. I want to hear that she begs for his cock or that he 'fucked her already dripping pussy and ended by covering the slut's ass with his cum'. I feel the prose is more for when you want to tell the dirty story but not be dirty in the process. Almost like trying to hide the act in pretty images. But that is just me, see it is always subjective.

Perhaps you would be offended by the tag of a dirty slut (or whatever) because you never feel that way inside. You do not see yourself like that so you do not appreciate being referred to in that manner. Which I hope your partners respect as everyone deserves to be seen and referred to as something they see in themselves. Some men like the idea that they 'are the best or biggest I have ever had'. Some prefer more truth. Erotica can be artful or dirty as hell, either seems to work.

My suggestion, find those women that like what you find unrealistic. As you can see they are out there and you would be a much happier camper trust me.

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I for one don't like the terms whore or slut. Too frequently they are applied to women you just like sex and like sucking and fucking. Whores and prostitutes are synonymous in my book - a woman who wants payment for giving out sex. Another word I prefer not to hear is cunt, especially when it refers to the women as a whole and not just to her pussy. Even there, I'd rather hear pussy, kitty or even vagina! Again, I have a negative feeling about the word.

As far as sucking cock, I love it. I love being able to get my man off orally. I love the feeling of his cock in my mouth and the feeling when he shoots his load into my mouth. I love the taste of his cum and eagerly swallow every drop. Truth be told, I don't really like facials or having him shoot his load ON me. I MUCH PREFER having his cum IN me. I love the feeling when I feel him shoot his load in my mouth, my pussy or my ass. It usually enough to push me over the edge. Mmmm...

Anyways, just my two cents worh.
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dirty talk can make everything better. not like i'd want some random person to call me a slut at a dinner party, but in the bedroom with the right person, it's a total turn on.


My wife loves to whisper nasty sex talk in my ear at dinner parties. Very distracting!
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I for one don't like the terms whore or slut. Too frequently they are applied to women you just like sex and like sucking and fucking. Whores and prostitutes are synonymous in my book - a woman who wants payment for giving out sex. Another word I prefer not to hear is cunt, especially when it refers to the women as a whole and not just to her pussy. Even there, I'd rather hear pussy, kitty or even vagina! Again, I have a negative feeling about the word.


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I'm constantly wondering about the ideas of women in some erotic stories. I constantly feel that it is unrealistic to portray a woman

-- getting off on being called a "whore" or a "slut";

As a teen when I was basically a nymphomaniac - I was often referred to as a slut - Probably I was then. Now I would resent it.
A whore I would consider is a woman who sells herself for sex - a prostitute would be a more polite term.


-- actually finding pleasure in sucking a penis to the point of seeking this activity out above their own pleasure;

Not to the exclusion of my pleasure but I do enjoy it, and make sure he does too.

-- calling their mouths or themselves as "cum hungry".

I would never refer to my mouth or myself being cum hungry, but certainly cum receptive.

I understand the desire to please and temporarily acquiesce to a male fantasy of domination, but is it realistic to think women would thing and act this way normally?

I would never become subservient to a male or be dominant in sex play apart from the fun of the engagement.

To 'think' and 'act' in a sexually explicit way is quite normal for me and from the discussions I have with female friends I am certainly not alone. In fact, I don't know any females that are any different, even the quietly passive ones enjoy a bit of the erotic.
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I'm constantly wondering about the ideas of women in some erotic stories. I constantly feel that it is unrealistic to portray a woman

-- getting off on being called a "whore" or a "slut";


Wrong. Some girls love it and some girls hate it. In my experience, the more sexually experienced they are, the more they enjoy being called names.

If you fuck a 100 women, there will be a large percentage that will enjoy being called "slut" or "Whore."

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I understand the desire to please and temporarily acquiesce to a male fantasy of domination, but is it realistic to think women would thing and act this way normally?


Man...are you off base here. Most women enjoy male domination. The degree to which they are willing to go will differ depending on the circumstance.

I assume that you are not living in the real world... You're either not getting laid, or you've been married for 30 years.
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Language like that could probably work if someone was trying to write Regency or Victorian style romance, but it's overly flowery for a modern work. There should be a middle ground between crass and flowery.


Oi!!! Wot's wrong with flowery bonnets and petticoats and stuff?

I think that yes, all three are reasonable and realistic.

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Slut/whore isn't always negative in a sexual situation. You're getting a BJ... "Yes, take it... take it...." Your dick probes into her tight throat. "You beautiful, fucking whore."

Same with with cum-hungry. I can honestly say I've never used that term in real life, but I have said, "Baby, come over. I'm hungry for you."

The act of the BJ and the taste isn't what I enjoy. It's his reaction. And I have made a show of begging for the opportunity to give one, just because I knew it would drive him nuts.


This. And what Verbs said too.

It's all about the scenario, getting turned on and being empowered by driving your partner crazy and being in the moment with them. While possibly wearing a bonnet...
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One has to believe that their lovers are honest with them.

I can say truthfully that I have made love to a woman who absolutey enjoyed being called a "slut" and "whore" and actually initiated such language.

It's been a pleasure to give a lady all the cum she wanted to swallow when she was eagerly asking for it. I believe that particular woman really preferred giving me a blow job to other forms of sexual play. Even begging to swallow my cum when I was ready to ejaculate inside her. it was something of a gymnastic contortion to get my prick up to her mouth before cumming. Just had to squeeze it tightly before releasing it.

I've never had anyone come out and say they were "cum-hungry" but their actions indicated that they were.
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The closest story I've written to nonfiction is...yup, all about how much I love "sucking a penis to the point of seeking this activity above [my] own pleasure".

Well, since performing fellatio or having my mouth and throat actively fucked does bring me immense sexual pleasure, I suppose the last part doesn't apply to me. Maybe I'm wired weird, but I do love swallowing down a cock. Period, full stop.

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Not so much on being called names in real life, but I will admit to, as mentioned before, enjoying the correct word growled in the correct manner at just the perfect time. "Slut" and "cumslut" are probably the two hottest, as well as "pussy", especially when used as he spreads my legs and pushes on the flat of my belly before parting my labia and beginning whatever manner of delightful violation he has in mind.

Now, me using dirty talk...nah, as someone else said, I can't sell it to save my life. It doesn't appear in my stories--the female protagonist using dirty talk, without prior instruction, to address her partner--for precisely that reason.
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I have to say, that having a woman talk dirty is the best thing ever. Dirty talk can turn a basic vanilla encounter into a super hot one.

I generally am the one to start it, but if a woman came out and started whispering filthy things in my ear..... It would be very very welcome.

As to the topic presented here, I would have to say that some of the dirtiest stuff I've done are from my true stories.

Truth is usually stranger than fiction.
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I'm constantly wondering about the ideas of women in some erotic stories. I constantly feel that it is unrealistic to portray a woman

-- getting off on being called a "whore" or a "slut";

-- actually finding pleasure in sucking a penis to the point of seeking this activity out above their own pleasure;

-- calling their mouths or themselves as "cum hungry".

I understand the desire to please and temporarily acquiesce to a male fantasy of domination, but is it realistic to think women would thing and act this way normally?


Sure - I find myself "all about him" sometimes and not about me at all. I like his taste, I like having the ability to persuade or control him in a sexual way.

Why is it unrealistic? Because you don't think women enjoy giving?

I'm a very giving person. Big heart and all.
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In my own relationship (38 years) dirty talk is used, but never degrading. The use of cock vs penis, pussy and cunt vs vagina, are common terms used in our sexual play. We also both enjoy oral play--her sucking me or me going down on her--but again no derogatory references. I would never say "suck my cock, bitch" and I'm pretty sure if I did, the blowjob would be anything but pleasurable.

That said, we are also not in to pain or bondage. Of the people I know who are into these as elements of sexual play do occasionally like references to degrading terms. However, it is far more common for derogatory terms to be used for men in those situations.

I think women already face too many situations in real life where they are treated as second class to find 'abusive' language to be a turn on.

- Just my thoughts.