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I’m writing a story featuring a family man with a wife and a 16-year-old son and an 18-year-old daughter. After getting sacked from his job, the husband takes part in medical trails with a pharmaceutical company to test a new Alzheimer’s drug. When he gets home he finds he has a range of psi abilities including telekinesis, telepathy and mind control and uses his abilities to get the family to do certain naughty things.

Does this go in mind control category or incest?
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Any story with incestuous elements to the plot must go into the Incest category regardless of any other categories that might seem more suitable.
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Thanks, Liz. I actually have a related question, if you have the time. With all the new categories being added (and some of the debate forming around certain ones), are there other topics and content which need to be herded into their own sections. For example, would something that includes an intelligent monster/mythological creature have to go in the monster sex category, if there were other valid options? Or, the story that DonnaDreams is talking about - would it need to go into the mind control if it was not incest related?

I am just curious where we are drawing these sorts of lines anymore, and if there is a hierarchy of categories we need to be aware of. Thanks for your thoughts as always!
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Thanks, Liz. I actually have a related question, if you have the time. With all the new categories being added (and some of the debate forming around certain ones), are there other topics and content which need to be herded into their own sections. For example, would something that includes an intelligent monster/mythological creature have to go in the monster sex category, if there were other valid options? Or, the story that DonnaDreams is talking about - would it need to go into the mind control if it was not incest related?

I am just curious where we are drawing these sorts of lines anymore, and if there is a hierarchy of categories we need to be aware of. Thanks for your thoughts as always!


incest fantasies is really the only category that can carry a stigma for some people, so that's the one that needs to go into it's specific category despite what else is going on in the story - you can use tags for the rest. for all other categories, put it into what makes sense for you and tag anything else, ie: A minotaur uses mind control to lure a young women into his maze where hypnotizes her into tying him up and peeing on him. category: monster sex. tags: bdsm, watersports, mind control.

hope that answers your questions. smile

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Just when were these new categories added, and how were we to know. I always thought incest was strictly prohibited here. I see one for teen, also. I.ve been slapped down a couple of times for crossing that line. I had a story rejected because a fourteen-year-old was having difficulty urinating because he had an unexplained erection. What's the minimum age limit now?
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Just when were these new categories added, and how were we to know. I always thought incest was strictly prohibited here. I see one for teen, also. I.ve been slapped down a couple of times for crossing that line. I had a story rejected because a fourteen-year-old was having difficulty urinating because he had an unexplained erection. What's the minimum age limit now?


about a month ago and there was a freaking huge announcement in the announcement section. 16 is still the minimum age limit. that goes for Teen stories as well.

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Thanks. I scrolled down and got the age question answered, but thanks again. And, to tell the truth, I don't know anything about the announcement section. No excuse for ignorance, huh? I think I'll stick to those categories I feel safe in.
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about a month ago and there was a freaking huge announcement in the announcement section. 16 is still the minimum age limit. that goes for Teen stories as well.

My question to you Sprite, concerns the minimum age part of your answer. I’m no legal expert, so please correct me if I’m wrong, but it’s my understanding that a person under 18-years of age is considered a minor here in the USA, Canada and perhaps elsewhere too, I’m not sure. Anyone having intimate relations with a minor may end up in jail. If this is true, why does Lushstories use a cut-off point of 16? Aren’t you leaving yourselves open for a ‘friendly visit’ from the FBI? On the flip side, if it is legally okay to write about relationships with a minor, but just not do it, then why do we have any minimum age limit at all here on the site?

Having said that, I do want to make one thing crystal clear to everyone before a dozen people come down on me like a ton of bricks, and accuse me of being a . I am in NO WAY in favor of anyone having sex with a minor. It is wrong, legally, morally and every other way you can think of. It would not hurt my feelings at all, if Lushstories raised the limit to 18 from the current age for all stories. In all honesty, I’d love to see that happen, and I know I’d feel a lot more comfortable being a member of this site if it did.

THANK YOU in advance for your response. You, all the other moderators, Gav and Nicola do a wonderful job of keeping this site at the high standard it has set for itself. I know you and the other moderators come under fire from time to time from people that are mad over some point, but this website wouldn’t be a leader if it weren’t for the hard work all of you put in. Keep up the good work.
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I’m no legal expert, so please correct me if I’m wrong, but it’s my understanding that a person under 18-years of age is considered a minor here in the USA, Canada and perhaps elsewhere too


To clarify, age of consent for sex acts in Canada is 16 (and used to be 14 but one of Stephen Harper's rare good moves was raising it), but age of consent to participate in the sex trade is 18. So portraying sixteen year-olds having sex is quite okay in Canada unless they are being paid to do so. Britain (where Nic lives) and Australia (where she used to be based) are also 16, IIRC, which likely influenced the age chosen.

(PS. Technically, the age of consent for anal sex in Canada is 18 but that's a last legacy of our old anti-gay blue laws and the distinction between anal and other sex acts is being eliminated so that it will drop to 16.)
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It's legal to write sex stories about people of any age. It's just on sex websites, site owners set the limit to what they want. If the site owner is English, she'd set it at 16 because the age of sexual consent is 16 in England. 18 is too high. Anything under 16 will most likely put most people off.
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My question to you Sprite, concerns the minimum age part of your answer. I’m no legal expert, so please correct me if I’m wrong, but it’s my understanding that a person under 18-years of age is considered a minor here in the USA, Canada and perhaps elsewhere too, I’m not sure. Anyone having intimate relations with a minor may end up in jail. If this is true, why does Lushstories use a cut-off point of 16? Aren’t you leaving yourselves open for a ‘friendly visit’ from the FBI? On the flip side, if it is legally okay to write about relationships with a minor, but just not do it, then why do we have any minimum age limit at all here on the site?

Having said that, I do want to make one thing crystal clear to everyone before a dozen people come down on me like a ton of bricks, and accuse me of being a . I am in NO WAY in favor of anyone having sex with a minor. It is wrong, legally, morally and every other way you can think of. It would not hurt my feelings at all, if Lushstories raised the limit to 18 from the current age for all stories. In all honesty, I’d love to see that happen, and I know I’d feel a lot more comfortable being a member of this site if it did.

THANK YOU in advance for your response. You, all the other moderators, Gav and Nicola do a wonderful job of keeping this site at the high standard it has set for itself. I know you and the other moderators come under fire from time to time from people that are mad over some point, but this website wouldn’t be a leader if it weren’t for the hard work all of you put in. Keep up the good work.


1) lush is an international site. the age of consent varies around the world. for instance, it's 16 in Canada.

2) AoC ALSO varies state to state. many states, such as Alabama, have it set at 16.

3) i doubt very much that the FBI is interested in erotica featuring 16yos when there is a very real issue with child pornography and human trafficking to deal with.

4) stories about anyone under 16 is just eww (imo).

5) lushstories deals in fantasy. it's okay to have fantasies that you would never ever act out upon in real life, hence the category 'incest fantasies'.

6) Gav rocks. Nicola, however, rests on the laurels of my hard work. the uprising will soon begin. and you are welcome *Hugs* smile

7) i'm about to start drinking. any posts i make after this one should be considered highly suspect.

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7) i'm about to start drinking. any posts i make after this one should be considered highly suspect.


I kind of apply that to all your posts, really.SSe11SXnUx98eMb6

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I kind of apply that to all your posts, really.FqG2tzuurzbNVaIw

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i can delete your account on a whim, if i wanted, monkey boy.

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There's always a hierarchy, if you want to target the right readers.

Rule #1 is Lush specific. As said, any close-blood relations having relations goes into I.F.

Rule #2 is the rule of Most Squick. If there are two or more dominant themes, go with the category that's most likely to make other readers cringe. The people in the edgier category aren't going to mind the more vanilla aspects, so long as they get their kink. The people in mainstream categories may run screaming the moment they come across watersports, bondage, etc.

Rule #3 is the rule of NIMBY. People looking for Gay Male or Lesbian stories don't want to read hetero couplings, and may even be squicked by it. The reverse also holds true — though more or less only for GM. You can get away with girl-girl most anywhere, but two guys getting it on is not going to go over well unless it's in a category where it's reasonably expected. Thanks to the bisexual category, there's a home for those crossovers where hetero and same sex couplings can happily mingle.

Rule #4 is the rule of Many Eyes. If there are two equal, relatively vanilla themes, go with the one that generates the most traffic. Use your Columbo-like research skills to see which category garners the most votes and comments overall.
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There's always a hierarchy, if you want to target the right readers.

Rule #1 is Lush specific. As said, any close-blood relations having relations goes into I.F.

Rule #2 is the rule of Most Squick. If there are two or more dominant themes, go with the category that's most likely to make other readers cringe. The people in the edgier category aren't going to mind the more vanilla aspects, so long as they get their kink. The people in mainstream categories may run screaming the moment they come across watersports, bondage, etc.

Rule #3 is the rule of NIMBY. People looking for Gay Male or Lesbian stories don't want to read hetero couplings, and may even be squicked by it. The reverse also holds true — though more or less only for GM. You can get away with girl-girl most anywhere, but two guys getting it on is not going to go over well unless it's in a category where it's reasonably expected. Thanks to the bisexual category, there's a home for those crossovers where hetero and same sex couplings can happily mingle.

Rule #4 is the rule of Many Eyes. If there are two equal, relatively vanilla themes, go with the one that generates the most traffic. Use your Columbo-like research skills to see which category garners the most votes and comments overall.


This post is well reasoned. I think maybe I am a little more lax with the third one than I maybe should be, but this is really nicely laid out for anybody who doesn't think about their demographics. Thanks. smile
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On another site, a friend advised me that when picking a story category, 'Go with the one that will piss off the fewest readers.'

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On another site, a friend advised me that when picking a story category, 'Go with the one that will piss off the fewest readers.'



I was on Lush a couple of years ago, just reading stories mainly, and I got the impression that Lush was an anti-incest and anti-non-con site. Now with the incest and mind control categorizes added, I think people will be reluctant to post in those categories through fear of pissing people off. It's hard to tell what will piss people off and what won't now.

Myself, I don't object to any category, but I think most people do.
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I think people will be reluctant to post in those categories through fear of pissing people off.


That's pretty low on my list of concerns when I pick a category, though. I am unlikely to publish in either of those simply because they aren't my erotic cuppa (okay, depending on how incest is being defined, I do have a couple story ideas that might have to go there, but they aren't your usual "Daddy-daughter" type stuff). To be fair, though, I don't usually start with a category. I start with a story and then try to figure out what category it belongs in once I have it well under way. Incest and Mind Control would be the exceptions to that since it is fairly obvious from the get-go if a story is going to end up in one of those.

In fact, incest was allowed back when I joined (I was a mod during the blow-up over removing it) and incest stories were pretty good for picking up views, though less so for scores and comments. So you may piss some people off but you'll also get some eyeballs if you publish, at least in that one. I have it hidden so I have no idea how the current crop of incest stories are faring on that front.