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"Torture" Erotic content: Do you find it disturbing?

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There is a trend of erotic content, (videos, stories, etc.) which focuses on one or more people have their sexual organs fondled in a painful and sadistic way.

Some people think that this is some kind of evolution of the BDSM genre.

While everyone can be comfortable with BDSM in varying proportions, i feel such content which could be termed "torture" is not a healthy trend.

I read about an actress who had performed in some such kind of video. She said that she wont do it again, because in addition to the "regular" possibility of bodily damage in her profession, such acts carried additional risks of injury because of the special gear involved and the inability of the performers to judge how much pain could the recipient endure.

A former friend whose bf was quite into such practices surprised me by telling that he had an "acquired taste" of torturing her. She told me it was like an addiction to him, the more he treated her that way, the more it turned him on.

What do you think?
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I think your former friend's boyfriend is sick, and will probably become a serial killer. The whole idea of torture in any venue is reprehensible. Anyone who enjoys inflicting it is a psychopath!
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I think your former friend's boyfriend is sick, and will probably become a serial killer. The whole idea of torture in any venue is reprehensible. Anyone who enjoys inflicting it is a psychopath!


I totally agree with Miss Awesomeness here. The psychopath should get a job working at Guantánamo.
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I think your former friend's boyfriend is sick, and will probably become a serial killer. The whole idea of torture in any venue is reprehensible. Anyone who enjoys inflicting it is a psychopath!


I warned her after knowing about it. She said they have a safe word & everything. They moved to a different city.
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I totally agree with Miss Awesomeness here. The psychopath should get a job working at Guantánamo.


I think such people should atleast be mandated to see a shrink, but people will call me narrow minded for saying that.
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I think your former friend's boyfriend is sick, and will probably become a serial killer. The whole idea of torture in any venue is reprehensible. Anyone who enjoys inflicting it is a psychopath!



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I totally agree with Miss Awesomeness here. The psychopath should get a job working at Guantánamo.


These types of brash responses are why the OP suggested people into masochism and sadomasochism (etc) don't call it 'torture' . . . because if it's done with consent and to the pleasure of both (or all) involved, it's a strong sexual positive and not negative.

Torture, though, has a negative connotation.

I enjoy "torture" porn, write "torture" erotica, and have engaged in light masochism during masturbation and likely could take it to a higher level if I was involved with someone who had an interest in it.

I'm not a psychopath. I'm not going to become a serial killer. I do, however, find sensual arousal in pain. That's all it comes down to.

This in particular:

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A former friend whose bf was quite into such practices surprised me by telling that he had an "acquired taste" of torturing her. She told me it was like an addiction to him, the more he treated her that way, the more it turned him on.

What do you think?


This is commonly called Dom Space . . . and many Doms (or Dommes) can become very disturbed when they fall into this zone. It's complicated and requires care and understanding from a mature and knowledgeable submissive.

BDSM - obviously - can be misunderstood by people who don't understand why people engage in the extreme play end of the spectrum.

For this reason, I tag my books that are related to it "masochism" and not 'torture'. And my goal as a writer is to explore why people want to engage it in from all points of view - the orchestrator, giver, and receiver.
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I think such people should atleast be mandated to see a shrink, but people will call me narrow minded for saying that.


You know what a sex therapist will say?

"You're completely normal. Thousands of people around the world share your same interests. As long as you engage in sex consensually and communicate with your partner, everything is fine."

Because, regardless of what you and others think about it, pain and sex isn't the sign of a sick mind and all psychologists know this. The worst thing is the guilt and self-punishment one puts their-self through by feeling shamed for it.

However, if you go to a therapist and tell them your judgmental opinion of people who are involved in BDSM, you might have to talk deeper into why you're so closed minded and judgmental toward other people. That can be a sign of an actual behavioral health problem.
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You know what a sex therapist will say?

"You're completely normal. Thousands of people around the world share your same interests. As long as you engage in sex consensually and communicate with your partner, everything is fine."

Because, regardless of what you and others think about it, pain and sex isn't the sign of a sick mind and all psychologists know this. The worst thing is the guilt and self-punishment one puts their-self through by feeling shamed for it.

However, if you go to a therapist and tell them your judgmental opinion of people who are involved in BDSM, you might have to talk deeper into why you're so closed minded and judgmental toward other people. That can be a sign of an actual behavioral health problem.


This.
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I became involved in BDSM as a sub in 1975 when I was 17 with my first Dom. First it is not for everyone and no one should be forced into it or any other sexual genre they are not comfortable with. We have safe words for several of our sexual genres. I have not needed my safe word with Hubbie since our early days in the scene, which for us started in 1980. With my first Dom it was only used in the beginning also which set my limits. We probably do from 5 to 10 BDSM scenes that involve a higher degree of pain a month. This does not include just the use of nipple clips which are used in most of our sexual events.

We do not live the BDSM Lifestyle 24/7/365 but know some that do. I can tell you that for me when done within my limits the orgasms are much more intense, and produces more waves in an orgasm. The results of non BDSM erotic play also produce better orgasms for both or all of us in moresomes. Also all of our BDSM scenes do not involve pain. We consider Hubbie offering me to others as part of our BDSM play. Also being restrained in stocks during a gang bang as BDSM play even if no pain is involved.

The two stories I have posted is about my first gang bang which included being restrained. There was a lot of new BDSM events for me that weekend which I have not written a story for yet. Until I was introduced to BDSM with or without pain, I would not have thought it would be a turn on.

Most people do not realize the sub is controlling the scene in a mutual consentual scene. If it is not done with mutual consent from all involved then it could be considered domestic violence, or an assault, or worse.

So it is No, I do not find it disturbing when conducted with mutual consent.

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You know what a sex therapist will say?

"You're completely normal. Thousands of people around the world share your same interests. As long as you engage in sex consensually and communicate with your partner, everything is fine."

Because, regardless of what you and others think about it, pain and sex isn't the sign of a sick mind and all psychologists know this. The worst thing is the guilt and self-punishment one puts their-self through by feeling shamed for it.

However, if you go to a therapist and tell them your judgmental opinion of people who are involved in BDSM, you might have to talk deeper into why you're so closed minded and judgmental toward other people. That can be a sign of an actual behavioral health problem.


I have already said that everyone is comfortable with varying proportions of BDSM (which includes me).

The kind of erotic content i am talking about emphasizes on sexual organs, that too being fondled in a dangerous, tricky way.

You said you were involved in light play of such sorts and would proceed further with someone if they were interested in it, that hints at how tricky and difficult it is.
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I became involved in BDSM as a sub in 1975 when I was 17 with my first Dom. First it is not for everyone and no one should be forced into it or any other sexual genre they are not comfortable with. We have safe words for several of our sexual genres. I have not needed my safe word with Hubbie since our early days in the scene, which for us started in 1980. With my first Dom it was only used in the beginning also which set my limits. We probably do from 5 to 10 BDSM scenes that involve a higher degree of pain a month. This does not include just the use of nipple clips which are used in most of our sexual events.

We do not live the BDSM Lifestyle 24/7/365 but know some that do. I can tell you that for me when done within my limits the orgasms are much more intense, and produces more waves in an orgasm. The results of non BDSM erotic play also produce better orgasms for both or all of us in moresomes. Also all of our BDSM scenes do not involve pain. We consider Hubbie offering me to others as part of our BDSM play. Also being restrained in stocks during a gang bang as BDSM play even if no pain is involved.

The two stories I have posted is about my first gang bang which included being restrained. There was a lot of new BDSM events for me that weekend which I have not written a story for yet. Until I was introduced to BDSM with or without pain, I would not have thought it would be a turn on.

Most people do not realize the sub is controlling the scene in a mutual consentual scene. If it is not done with mutual consent from all involved then it could be considered domestic violence, or an assault, or worse.

So it is No, I do not find it disturbing when conducted with mutual consent.

Brandie


I think what you have described are little extreme variations of BDSM play, which i dont find uncomfortable.

The kind of content which scares me involves fondling sexual organs in a painful and tricky way.

I just cant describe it. I am not good at posting links to videos, if i find a relevant one, i will post it.
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I think what you have described are little extreme variations of BDSM play, which i dont find uncomfortable.

The kind of content which scares me involves fondling sexual organs in a painful and tricky way.

I just cant describe it. I am not good at posting links to videos, if i find a relevant one, i will post it.


You mean tight-wrapping cocks, inserting shoe heels in stretched urethras, pins and needles in places where pins and needles shouldn't go, tying up tits and inserting nails and spikes into the skin, fire and electricity and so forth?

No need to post videos - I pay for the good stuff.

It's still BDSM. It might not be the storybook version of it, though.

It's not a trend, though. Books like Story of the Eye (Bataille) and Justine (Marque de Sade) are a testament to how long-lived such interests are.
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I am sure Nola is more experienced than I.

However I had some experience and it has brought me a get deal of pleasure.

If you are going to pass in the this world on a regular basis or just on occasion. You need to know your limits of accepting pain and the rewards you expect from that pain. There must be absolute trust between the partners.

If thing are reversed, the same things need to be defined and the guidelines strictly adhered to.
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There is no trend or evolution of BDSM that you speak of. Extreme sexual play existed prior to August 6th., 1991. You are entitled to your opinion, and, you don't have to participate in anything you don't want to. Consenting adults can do whatever they desire in private. Did your friend fear for her well being? Did she not enjoy what her boyfriend did to her? Did she ever have to use her safe word? Did her boyfriend stop when and if she used her safe word? Perhaps, he did not suffer from an addiction, but became extremely aroused at what your friend allowed him to do to her. If you were concerned for your friend's well being, why did you not call the police? You have left out a lot of important details. As to the interview you refer to, I have watched many interviews where the performers explain they understand the risks, but the sexual gratification is more than worth the calculated risk of the performance.

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The kind of content which scares me involves fondling sexual organs in a painful and tricky way.

How do you know of such content and why do you watch that content if it 'scares' you?

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It's not a trend, though. Books like Story of the Eye (Bataille) and Justine (Marque de Sade) are a testament to how long-lived such interests are.

Hmm, perhaps you and I should visit a psychiatrist together. We could make it a threesome of deviant bliss.

I think this thread is bullshit. Especially the replies that refer to serial killers and psychopaths. Very uncool.

To answer the question, no, I do not find it disturbing. Unlike you, I will not watch or participate in anything I find disturbing.

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There is no trend or evolution of BDSM that you speak of. Extreme sexual play existed prior to August 6th., 1991. You are entitled to your opinion, and, you don't have to participate in anything you don't want to. Consenting adults can do whatever they desire in private. Did your friend fear for her well being? Did she not enjoy what her boyfriend did to her? Did she ever have to use her safe word? Did her boyfriend stop when and if she used her safe word? Perhaps, he did not suffer from an addiction, but became extremely aroused at what your friend allowed him to do to her. If you were concerned for your friend's well being, why did you not call the police? You have left out a lot of important details. As to the interview you refer to, I have watched many interviews where the performers explain they understand the risks, but the sexual gratification is more than worth the calculated risk of the performance.


Hmm, perhaps you and I should visit a psychiatrist together. We could make it a threesome of deviant bliss.

I think this thread is bullshit. Especially the replies that refer to serial killers and psychopaths. Very uncool.

To answer the question, no, I do not find it disturbing. Unlike you, I will not watch or participate in anything I find disturbing.

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I think i should explain a few things.

New Erotic content (Stories, Videos, etc.) posted or released recently does tend to have "Torture" themes, which was what got me thinking.

I have already said, everyone (including me) may be comfortable with BDSM in varying proportions.

Of course, no one will and should participate in anything they would not like.

In the earlier BDSM themed content, the "submissive" was portrayed as enjoying the acts, which focused on general submission.

The "Torture" themed content however, portrays the submissive as being hurt and/ or in pain and it focuses on sexual organs being fondled in a definitely damaging way.

As for my friend, she reluctantly liked what her bf did to her. She had to frequently use the safe word to stop him. He did always stop when she requested him to do so. That was why i did not call the police.

I agree some adult performers may indulge in such acts for the gratification they gain from it, but there are also some who have said that they only participate in it because it has become a necessary part of their job.

I know its not necessary for a psychopath to be influenced by such "erotic" content to harm someone, but it can provide an inspiration of sorts, surely.
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I know its not necessary for a psychopath to be influenced by such "erotic" content to harm someone, but it can provide an inspiration of sorts, surely.


Something tells me you have no understanding of mental health issues and should stop trying to abide by some old, primitive and dead effort to paint people with extreme sexual interests as mentally ill and in need of therapy and meds to find a better balance strictly because of their sexual proclivities.

As for your friend.... I don't presume you actually know everything about her situation, but it sounds like she was unable to stand up for herself and let him control her actions and decisions . . . which isn't health. Whether or not he was into extreme sex doesn't matter. Any time a relationship is one-sided and the other person si constantly pressured to do things they don't want to do, that person needs to seek counseling or get the hell out.

Doesn't mean he was necessarily imbalanced (you clearly talked to her - somewhat - but never talked to him), but she was obviously lacking the capacity to do what was genuinely best for herself.

That's not his fault.

That's on her.

When anyone is in a shit relationship - it's up to that person on the lower end of the deal to find a way up or out. They are ultimately responsible for deciding when things are unacceptable, have gone too far, and need to end.

Per videos and stories - in my world, it's always been there. Perhaps you're only now becoming aware of it? With our modern era of easy-access internet where there are less gatekeepers then perhaps you've seeing it more purely due to this accessibility. but even before the internet, it was there. Videos were mail-order, but still there.

If there's any increase, it's in the number of people who are realizing that society and morals don't dictate what turns them on an what they're willing to follow through with. By being easier to get in contact with others who share an interest, it lets them explore what - 20/50 years ago - might have been boxed up.

Paid-for production porn is different, though than stories or homespun videos . . . it's sometimes NOT about what the people really want to engage in, but what pays well. So if there's anything disturbing is that people submit to certain acts only because they're being paid for it. I do find that unfortunate and I generally don't support paid-for extreme porn as a result of that type of issue. I want a production facility that offers people a chance to explore their deep desires, not paid-for actors who aren't into anything they're doing.
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Something tells me you have no understanding of mental health issues and should stop trying to abide by some old, primitive and dead effort to paint people with extreme sexual interests as mentally ill and in need of therapy and meds to find a better balance strictly because of their sexual proclivities.

As for your friend.... I don't presume you actually know everything about her situation, but it sounds like she was unable to stand up for herself and let him control her actions and decisions . . . which isn't health. Whether or not he was into extreme sex doesn't matter. Any time a relationship is one-sided and the other person si constantly pressured to do things they don't want to do, that person needs to seek counseling or get the hell out.

Doesn't mean he was necessarily imbalanced (you clearly talked to her - somewhat - but never talked to him), but she was obviously lacking the capacity to do what was genuinely best for herself.

That's not his fault.

That's on her.

When anyone is in a shit relationship - it's up to that person on the lower end of the deal to find a way up or out. They are ultimately responsible for deciding when things are unacceptable, have gone too far, and need to end.

Per videos and stories - in my world, it's always been there. Perhaps you're only now becoming aware of it? With our modern era of easy-access internet where there are less gatekeepers then perhaps you've seeing it more purely due to this accessibility. but even before the internet, it was there. Videos were mail-order, but still there.

If there's any increase, it's in the number of people who are realizing that society and morals don't dictate what turns them on an what they're willing to follow through with. By being easier to get in contact with others who share an interest, it lets them explore what - 20/50 years ago - might have been boxed up.

Paid-for production porn is different, though than stories or homespun videos . . . it's sometimes NOT about what the people really want to engage in, but what pays well. So if there's anything disturbing is that people submit to certain acts only because they're being paid for it. I do find that unfortunate and I generally don't support paid-for extreme porn as a result of that type of issue. I want a production facility that offers people a chance to explore their deep desires, not paid-for actors who aren't into anything they're doing.


I have been misunderstood.

When i said "I know its not necessary for a psychopath to be influenced by such "erotic" content to harm someone, but it can provide an inspiration of sorts, surely.", I did not paint people with extreme sexual interests as having mental health issues. What i meant is that erotic content where the submissive is not depicted as enjoying the acts, but is in fact being hurt by them, may serve as some kinda guide for such a mentally ill person. Such content has been reportedly found in the possession of psychopaths when they were arrested.

A healthy domme- sub relationship revolves around the sub. The moment a sub is uncomfortable or may get hurt, the domme stops performing whatever was supposed to happen or planned. Exactly this may have been missing in the content i discussed about.

As for my friend, yes, there may have been lack of communication between her and me in some ways, and much more so in the case of her bf and her. This is because she is extremely introverted. I know people will blame her, but i think we know many people like her who are in satisfying relationships because their lovers/ spouses knew how to make their introvert lovers express themselves and/ or they acted maturely and kinda thought they were responsible to make the relationship work, since apart from being introverted, there was nothing missing, as a person.

Its true that people have now more access to such content, as compared to the past, thanks to the internet etc. But according to a female friend in her late 50s who is a domme and has been exposed to such extreme content over the years "There has been a shift from themes focusing on satisfying the submissive's urges to themes glorifying sadistic dommes."

I agree what one finds disturbing may not feel so for someone else.
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An unusual topic...smile

I'm trying to comment strictly on the literal words of this thread topic,
and not trying to give an opinion that roves into other areas, who some here wish to make it about, to serve their on purpose.

"Torture" Erotic content: Do you find it disturbing?

noun: torture

1.
the action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or to force them to do or say something, or for the pleasure of the person inflicting the pain.
synonyms: infliction of pain, abuse, ill-treatment, maltreatment, persecution; sadism
"acts of torture"
great physical or mental suffering or anxiety.
"the torture I've gone through because of loving you so"
synonyms: torment, agony, suffering, pain, anguish, misery, distress, heartbreak, affliction, scourge, trauma, wretchedness; More
hell, purgatory
"the torture of losing a loved one"
a cause of suffering or anxiety.
plural noun: tortures
"dances were absolute torture because I was so small"

verb: torture; 3rd person present: tortures; past tense: tortured; past participle: tortured; gerund or present participle: torturing

1.
inflict severe pain on.
"most of the victims had been brutally tortured"
synonyms: inflict pain on, ill-treat, abuse, mistreat, maltreat, persecute
"they have tortured suspects in order to extract confessions"

adjective: sadistic

deriving pleasure from inflicting pain, suffering, or humiliation on others.
"she took a sadistic pleasure in tormenting him"
synonyms: cruel, barbarous, vicious, brutal, callous, fiendish, cold-blooded, inhuman, ruthless, heartless; perverted.
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The term "BDSM" is first recorded in a Usenet posting from 1991,[1] and is interpreted as a combination of the abbreviations B/D (Bondage and Discipline), D/s (Dominance and submission), and S/M (Sadism and Masochism).
BDSM is a variety of often erotic practices or (role-playing) involving bondage, discipline, dominance and submission...Not mutilation, in any form.
If you are causing blood to spill, or unwanted pain, then it has just crossed the line, and is no longer considered BDSM.

Anyone who thinks that some forms of BDSM do have these types of actions?
Is wrong, and either has never had a real Mistress or Master, but only cyber fantasy,
or is into something else that would be considered torture, in which they show signs of psychotic tendencies, either from genetic abnormalities,
or simply immature, immoral parenting, and bad role-modeling to cause anyone to get joy from giving, or receiving torturous acts.

noun: role playing; noun: rôle playing; plural noun: rôle playings; noun: roleplaying; noun: role-playing; plural noun: role-playings

1.
the acting out of the part of a particular person or character, for example as a technique in training or psychotherapy.
Psychology
the unconscious acting out of a particular role in accordance with the perceived expectations of society.
2.
participation in a role-playing game.
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Yes, of course torture is disturbing, erotic or not. If we are talking literally about the (topic) which is (torture and sadistic acts)?

No one here in their right mind can sugar-coat it with sweet sounding terms of painful pleasure, or relate torture to BDSM in any way.
BDSM is Role-playing, and is a voluntary action by all who practice it. If it isn't voluntary by all who participate? Then it is not BDSM.
Torture, in any form, erotic or not, is a forced action on another person in which they don't wish...There is no like comparison in these two meanings.

I do however, completely agree that torture should be used against any immoral muslim terrorist extremists, also anyone who only supports it,
and anyone who doesn't speak out against it, which probably includes the rest of them who worship their evil moon cult.

But that isn't the topic is it?...smile
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Willful ignorance isn't a high quality.

Especially when it comes to sex.

I'm surprised that at a sex positive site so many are trapped by it.

A world renown expert on BDSM named Ayzad has been practicing for decades. He maintains an informstive blog and has written highly educational books meant to dispel all the rumors and myths (some of which are present in this thread) about BDSM.

http://www.ayzad.com/my-books/bdsm-a-guide-for-explorers-of-extreme-eroticism/

An excerpt from one of his books:

[Quote] So what is it then that drives so many BDSM lovers to devote themselves to the most intense forms of play?

In addition to the physiological reasons discussed in the previous chapter, such as the endorphin rush or the reawakening of full sensoriality, the list of possible motives is endless and mostly related to psychology. The most important is the way these practices reaffirm the Dom/ sub relationship. The former takes pleasure not so much out of making his partner suffer, but rather out of knowing that he can, in a show of absolute ownership . In the same way, the sub's emotions are obviously not determined merely by the pain, but above all by “feeling” the control of the dominant through sensations that he or she certainly wouldn’t seek of his own accord. If these arguments seem too convoluted, it may be simpler to apply a proof of love logic: by enduring torture, the slaves unequivocally prove that their heart and soul belong to the Masters. This, of course, if they are altruistic. Otherwise the aspect of the ordeal takes over, where “surviving” the pain confirms one's strength and increases self-esteem.

...


If you're truly wondering about extreme play, his book BDSM: A Guide for Explorers of Extreme Eroticism is for you.
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I warned her after knowing about it. She said they have a safe word & everything. They moved to a different city.


So, he liked hurting her and she liked being hurt. They had a safe-word. As long as he respected the safe-word, torture is fetish play.

I have, and do, enjoy pain in a specific context. I also enjoy inflicting pain. "Torture" can simply be pain play drawn out. I very, very much enjoy that, as well.

As long as it's consensual, it's not a problem. It's a perfect fit.
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An unusual topic...smile

I'm trying to comment strictly on the literal words of this thread topic,
and not trying to give an opinion that roves into other areas, who some here wish to make it about, to serve their on purpose.

"Torture" Erotic content: Do you find it disturbing?

noun: torture

1.
the action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or to force them to do or say something, or for the pleasure of the person inflicting the pain.
synonyms: infliction of pain, abuse, ill-treatment, maltreatment, persecution; sadism
"acts of torture"
great physical or mental suffering or anxiety.
"the torture I've gone through because of loving you so"
synonyms: torment, agony, suffering, pain, anguish, misery, distress, heartbreak, affliction, scourge, trauma, wretchedness; More
hell, purgatory
"the torture of losing a loved one"
a cause of suffering or anxiety.
plural noun: tortures
"dances were absolute torture because I was so small"

verb: torture; 3rd person present: tortures; past tense: tortured; past participle: tortured; gerund or present participle: torturing

1.
inflict severe pain on.
"most of the victims had been brutally tortured"
synonyms: inflict pain on, ill-treat, abuse, mistreat, maltreat, persecute
"they have tortured suspects in order to extract confessions"

adjective: sadistic

deriving pleasure from inflicting pain, suffering, or humiliation on others.
"she took a sadistic pleasure in tormenting him"
synonyms: cruel, barbarous, vicious, brutal, callous, fiendish, cold-blooded, inhuman, ruthless, heartless; perverted.
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The term "BDSM" is first recorded in a Usenet posting from 1991,[1] and is interpreted as a combination of the abbreviations B/D (Bondage and Discipline), D/s (Dominance and submission), and S/M (Sadism and Masochism).
BDSM is a variety of often erotic practices or (role-playing) involving bondage, discipline, dominance and submission...Not mutilation, in any form.
If you are causing blood to spill, or unwanted pain, then it has just crossed the line, and is no longer considered BDSM.

Anyone who thinks that some forms of BDSM do have these types of actions?
Is wrong, and either has never had a real Mistress or Master, but only cyber fantasy,
or is into something else that would be considered torture, in which they show signs of psychotic tendencies, either from genetic abnormalities,
or simply immature, immoral parenting, and bad role-modeling to cause anyone to get joy from giving, or receiving torturous acts.

noun: role playing; noun: rôle playing; plural noun: rôle playings; noun: roleplaying; noun: role-playing; plural noun: role-playings

1.
the acting out of the part of a particular person or character, for example as a technique in training or psychotherapy.
Psychology
the unconscious acting out of a particular role in accordance with the perceived expectations of society.
2.
participation in a role-playing game.
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Yes, of course torture is disturbing, erotic or not. If we are talking literally about the (topic) which is (torture and sadistic acts)?

No one here in their right mind can sugar-coat it with sweet sounding terms of painful pleasure, or relate torture to BDSM in any way.
BDSM is Role-playing, and is a voluntary action by all who practice it. If it isn't voluntary by all who participate? Then it is not BDSM.
Torture, in any form, erotic or not, is a forced action on another person in which they don't wish...There is no like comparison in these two meanings.

I do however, completely agree that torture should be used against any immoral muslim terrorist extremists, also anyone who only supports it,
and anyone who doesn't speak out against it, which probably includes the rest of them who worship their evil moon cult.

But that isn't the topic is it?...smile


Irrespective of whether the terrorists involved are organized or domestic (specially the lone wolf phenomenon), when captured, they should be subjected to non physical torture only: Kinda The Bad cop routine. If still found to be uncooperative, they should be shot dead.
There is no point in physically torturing those involved in terrorism. Laws should always be enforced with certain ethics.
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I find it quite troubling how in a thread about consensual extreme play, people casually mention how they'd like to see suspects and their supporters tortured (no consensus there and you might be a suspect one day or seen as a supporter) or captives shot. I sure don't want to live a place like that.


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Irrespective of whether the terrorists involved are organized or domestic (specially the lone wolf phenomenon), when captured, they should be subjected to non physical torture only: Kinda The Bad cop routine. If still found to be uncooperative, they should be shot dead.
There is no point in physically torturing those involved in terrorism. Laws should always be enforced with certain ethics.


That's sounds good to me as well, except I think they should get what they give,
just behead them in public, and make sure it gets televised on al-jazeera news.
I'm not sympathetic to any muslim islamist terrorist views, and I no longer care about setting a good example.
I've had 7 friends, in three countries killed by them, they were innocent citizens.
(Now all I want is that every islamist who believes in, and/or supports sharia law to die.)

But again...This isn't the thread topic is it?...smile