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Story line - Sex ratio??

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So as You may have seen in some of my previous posts I'm working on my first erotica story.

Using only my first chapter for talks sake I'm wondering what a good sex - story line ratio would be, for example in chapter one I have...

2,139 words, of which 816 make up the sexual scene. For those of you who might have difficulty grasping word count (I know I do) That works out at 38.15% of the chapter being sex and the other 61.85% being dedicated to, character development and story line. ( If my math is correct, been a while, I could be wrong )

Is there a rule of thumb in the genre on how much sex should go into a story and how much should be actual plot?? As The transition from 'regular fiction' to adult fiction is proving harder than I first thought. Although I'm enjoying this much more and the story develops in my mind much easier with this genre. I think I might make the change in writers style permanent!

Thanks in advance!!!
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Her Royal Spriteness
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No rule of thumb, actually. i have read some amazing stories in which there is a lot of build up, but the actual sex is a small percentage - i've also read some that are pure sex that are brilliant - mostly, it depends on the author. lol - i don't usually share this in public, just with some of the writers that i am close to, but when i write erotica, i usually write the story with little notes in it: Sex scene here - anal - and then, when i have the story done, i wait until i'm in the proper mood and write the sex scene in. to me, the story is the important part - yes, i want hot sex, but i want it woven into a compelling story. mostly, it's personal preference, Saphira.

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No rule of thumb, actually. i have read some amazing stories in which there is a lot of build up, but the actual sex is a small percentage - i've also read some that are pure sex that are brilliant - mostly, it depends on the author. lol - i don't usually share this in public, just with some of the writers that i am close to, but when i write erotica, i usually write the story with little notes in it: Sex scene here - anal - and then, when i have the story done, i wait until i'm in the proper mood and write the sex scene in. to me, the story is the important part - yes, i want hot sex, but i want it woven into a compelling story. mostly, it's personal preference, Saphira.


Thank you! What a fantastic Idea, I'll have to remember that one if I'm not really in the mood for the sexual scene but want to carry on with the story. biggrin :D :D
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Buxom Enigma
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To add on to Sprite's methodology ... sometimes I'll make a little note in there about a specific thing, like public teasing, or a flash. Same thing goes there, as well. Different moods can lend an altogether different feel to a scene. I try and write those scenes, in that mood. So the same can go for the entire story, not just the sex.
"Good writing is supposed to evoke sensation in the reader - not the fact that it is raining, but the feeling of being rained upon." -E.L. Doctorow
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The way that I see it, is anyone can write about sex. It's the most natural occurrence in the world, everyone does it. Where being a great vs good writer comes in is plot building. Building the story and characters without having everything point back to SEX SEX SEX, is a skill. I enjoy a slow build up with a lot anticipation, and then a burning, hot, raw fuck- that doesn't need to take up the whole story.

I am looking forward to reading your piece

Jessica
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There is no set formula. In fact going by a formula will probably be self-destructive to the story. Some stories, written just right, have a long character building, drama setting build-up – a long tease. Then the sex could either be just a tease in itself or a great long climatic sex scene at the end. Any scenario can work if the writer does it right.

Also, the story could jump right into the sex and be nearly all sex and work to perfection.

Don't go by a formula. Work on developing your writing skill, on how to develop great plots whether they be complex or simple, long or short.
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No rule of thumb, actually. i have read some amazing stories in which there is a lot of build up, but the actual sex is a small percentage - i've also read some that are pure sex that are brilliant - mostly, it depends on the author. lol - i don't usually share this in public, just with some of the writers that i am close to, but when i write erotica, i usually write the story with little notes in it: Sex scene here - anal - and then, when i have the story done, i wait until i'm in the proper mood and write the sex scene in. to me, the story is the important part - yes, i want hot sex, but i want it woven into a compelling story. mostly, it's personal preference, Saphira.


That is actually an extremely common method of doing it. And one I usually partake in myself.


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I would say it is totally story dependent. With the SI/Fi Fantasy genre I feel it is worth noting that there is already a great deal of sex in the mainstream novels, and a portion of the readership tends to look for something more along the lines of story and world building and sex being a side point to the main stories.[except off course int he ones that don't.........] Because in the end sex is the same whether it is in a barn or on a space ship. I and my friends often find that the Sex Scenes detract from really well written long from si fi/fantasy fiction on sites such as this. (Came for the sex, stayed for the plot - like sakura fantasy and spirit and well... you know ;-])

in the end - it is purely the story you want to tell.

If you want to tell a quick stroke story, then you need to set it up as such, there is nothing wrong with it, just realize that you do not have the word usage to go into an awesome world building adventure. Focus purely upon the character interaction during sex, leaving the setting as a side note. Unless of course, they are doing it in a public park where the birds are chirping and the little kids are running around playing tag with there doggies. ( as a note I find the forbidden to be the most effective stroke stories to read)

Where as if you are writing an epic romance story, the sex is perhaps the end goal and the actual character interaction is the meat of the story. What I can promise you is that if the story is good enough no one will care if it has sex in it or not. There is nothing more satisfying than reading a good book.

Conclusion tell the story you want to tell, if it is a new sex scene ever 500 words go for it.
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I usually write my stories in one stroke (pun intended). As others have said, there are no real rules. However, in my humble opinion, a well-written story flows naturally and builds momentum, whether sexual or not. This is not something that can be achieved by applying a formula but rather comes from experience. The technique I use most is to tease the reader several times before getting to the actual sex scene. This can be done by dropping hints of what might come, or by telling little side stories about the character, for example. Having said all that, I sometimes get the complaint that there wasn't enough sex (i.e. I ran out of steam and hurried the sex, lol), but I've never had anyone complain that there was too much sex. Go figure!
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There is no set formula. In fact going by a formula will probably be self-destructive to the story. Some stories, written just right, have a long character building, drama setting build-up – a long tease. Then the sex could either be just a tease in itself or a great long climatic sex scene at the end. Any scenario can work if the writer does it right.

Also, the story could jump right into the sex and be nearly all sex and work to perfection.

Don't go by a formula. Work on developing your writing skill, on how to develop great plots whether they be complex or simple, long or short.


I just write whatever comes out of my lust-addled brain. No formula, just the story that wants to be written. Sometimes it's pure, unadulterated sex, sometimes there's a plot and character into which the sex fits, hopefully, most of them fall somewhere in between (I'm big on balance and finding middle ground). And sometime it is pure unadulterated drivel but I hope I catch and destroy those ones before inflicting them on poor, innocent Lushies.
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No rule of thumb, actually. i have read some amazing stories in which there is a lot of build up, but the actual sex is a small percentage - i've also read some that are pure sex that are brilliant - mostly, it depends on the author. lol - i don't usually share this in public, just with some of the writers that i am close to, but when i write erotica, i usually write the story with little notes in it: Sex scene here - anal - and then, when i have the story done, i wait until i'm in the proper mood and write the sex scene in. to me, the story is the important part - yes, i want hot sex, but i want it woven into a compelling story. mostly, it's personal preference, Saphira.


that's funny. I often do the same thing. I put the notes in in blue for some reason. when the story is finished I come back as the mood strikes me & fill in the blanks.
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I don't think you can use ratios to kit together a great erotic story. Stories are art. The story should move the plot forward. Some of the best erotic stories I have ever read have had teasing and half measures for the first 80% before the sex at the end. Some have little bits of sex sprinkled throughout. If you are looking for a rules you can tack up on the wall to improve your story every time, and I mean EVERY time, I would say there are a few: 1) Worry about grammar when you re-write your story 2) Re-write your story - print it out and make corrections/notes with ink. You'll notice so many neat improvements doing that. 3) When you re-write your story, see where you can shorten things and do it. I read Stephen King's book "On Writing". So many great tips. One thing he said that stuck with me is something like "kill your little dearies" meaning just because you wrote it, don't be afraid to cut it down to a size that still makes sense. You'll really make it less boring.
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I'm currently re-editing a piece as a Novel, and find myself in the same place as J.Smith. I am inventing plot devices just to fit something erotic in. A reader noticed this in the first chapter. I had started describing the scene with my girl friend then flipped the scene to a MILF. I wrote as explanation, "As Yogi Berra once said, when you get to a fork in the road, Take It." I thought it was funny.
I have to be in the mood, like most others, to write the sex.
Whatever, if you have always felt like you want to write, this is a good place to do it. Try a bunch of different things. Just for practice type sentences with all those dirty filthy words that you can't say in polite company. There are online 'Naughty Word' dictionaries for references.
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I've done a few erotic stories without the usual pornographic romp-around, to varying degrees of success. The best one took the reader through the seduction and foreplay, and then ended before the couple really got it on. I figured any moderately imaginative reader would be able to figure out the rest on their own, so why bother writing it? In another, the characters were physically separated but visible to each other (on opposite sides of a train depot), so actual contact was impossible as they passed the time in a game of seduction.

Maybe that should be the next competition: Write an erotic story without actual sex. It would be a great challenge, separating the wheat from the chaff in terms of erotic writing talent.

Post-avant-retro-demelodicized-electro-yodel-core is my jam.