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For anyone here who takes their Haiku seriously...

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WHAT THE HELL IS HAIKU?

Too much of what is passed off as haiku today is anything but haiku, nor is it related to hokku, the genre Matsuo Bashō pioneered. Few take the time to study haiku or hokku.
Haiku has no universally agreed upon definition. Undefined, it cannot be academically classified as a genre. Haiku is not a Japanese poetic form. It is a Western invent given to the world by Shiki, who subscribed to the German University based mindset adopted by Japan during the Meiji era.

The following are links to six essays and a postscript dealing with Haiku and Haiku Aesthetics penned by Robert D. Wilson. They are influencing how the literary world views the genre. Combined, they form a textbook over 500 pages in length,

I challenge each of you to read these essays:

The Importance of Ma
http://haikureality.webs.com/esejeng85.htm

Reinventing The Wheel
http://haikureality.webs.com/esejeng89.htm

To Kigo Or Not To Kigo
http://haikureality.webs.com/esejeng102.htm

Is Haiku Dying?
http://simplyhaikujournal.com/past-issues/simply-haiku-2011/autumnwinter-2011/features/is-haiku-dying.html

The Colonization of Japanese Haiku
http://simplyhaikujournal.com/past-issues/summer-2012/features/japanese-haiku-aesthetics-v.html

Postscript: What Is and Isn't Haiku
http://haikureality.webs.com/esejeng108.htm

Haiku is Dead
http://simplyhaikujournal.com/summer-2013/features/haiku-is-dead.html

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Sorry buddy...got as far as the second one (reinventing the wheel). Not my cup of tea.......however, if you enjoy it - then fair play.
We could discuss this for days.......but I have moe going on in my life.
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Sorry buddy...got as far as the second one (reinventing the wheel). Not my cup of tea.......however, if you enjoy it - then fair play.
We could discuss this for days.......but I have moe going on in my life.
Stay happy !


I got as far as the third paragraph on the first link and was lost.

No idea what it is and it's obviously something that I won't be spending time on either.
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No-one gives a fig
The haiku tree is dying
Let them see the light.

Thanks for taking the time to gather the info Alan, I have read one article and learnt something from it.
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Thanks for taking the time to gather the info Alan, I have read one article and learnt something from it.


Oh, thanks there Miss Trinket...glad you learned something, and found it of interest...

And no, it really didn't take much effort on my part to gather this mess...one of my Facebook friends, Robert D. Wilson, is co-founder of the journal Simply Haiku, and he posted this mess in one of the Facebook groups...I just shared it here because I thought someone might find it of interest...personally, I don't really give a hoot about Haiku myself...

Anyway...here's the Haiku journal, should anyone here be interested...and don't all jump at once here btw...

Simply Haiku
http://simplyhaikujournal.com/

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personally, I don't really give a hoot about Haiku myself...




Ok well I was only trying to be nice, and seeing as you don't care about Haiku, I'll tell the truth and say I don't either. Good thread though lol.