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Code Monkey
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Another performance tweak I'm working on is capping the number of friends you can add. At the moments its unlimited, which can open up a world of pain trying to aggregate your activity feeds. All the cool sites are doing it, FB and Twitter have limits (although they have got better at it).

So I'm thinking of 200 is a good number, this will impact ~800 of you extreme socialites.

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While 800 might not sound a lot compared to 200,000 users, that would be a lot of your most regular users. I can see how this might make a few people jittery.

70% of people with the socialite badge were active in the last month - that's a massive retention factor. It compares to just under 10% of all users being active in the last month

Instead of capping the number of friends why not limit access to the activity feed to those with less than 200 friends. The more friends you have the more meaningless it becomes any way.

Alternatively, reduce the activity feed to one month or maybe make the ability to have +100 friends purely a perk for Gold members.
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Short Arse Brit
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Hey babes

Not sure it will work tbh. I don't have the socialite badge im careful who I accept as friends and only do so after interacting with them in the forums or email. Many people here don't tho and that's fine, I dub them friend collectors lol.

That being said though, I wouldn't like to be restricted to who I can and can't accept as a friend, by way of example, I don't think I accepted any last month, but so far this month I have made 4-5 new ones, I wouldn't like to have to turn anyone I find interesting down should they ask to be friends as I had already hit my quota for the month. Obviously the longer you are here the more friends you will make, I personally don't want to be restricted but that's just my opinion, for what its worth.
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Matriarch
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I'd rather see the activity feed restricted, rather than the friend #'s.

It doesn't make logical sense to me on a social network, whether it's Facebook, Twitter or here, to restrict your friend numbers, that's what networking is all about (provided of course, the servers / setup is up to it, and there's not a huge amount of scope for user abuse / friend spamming).

If it's mainly the activity feed issue, then maybe limit it to the last say, 50 friend most recent friend entries? I don't know about you, but the last time I went on Facebook, I scrolled down the page a few times, and that was enough for me. I must have seen posts by around a dozen or two people at the most.
Gingerbread Lover
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I have just over 200 "friends" on my list. I don't know most of them, and I barely talk to even my closest friends. I don't even know why most of them wanted to add me anyway (apart from the mod collectors and friend collectors who stick out like a sore thumb, and I ignore or delete them).

I tried to downsize recently, but I was unsure who to get rid of. I wouldn't want to offend anybody who actually wanted to keep me (whoever they are). I thought about just deleting everybody and seeing if anybody noticed (that would make my list nice and small).

However, I do have friends who have more "friends" than I do, and are somehow in contact with most of them. It seems unfair to me to limit the social butterflies because of how active everybody is.

I don't know how it technically works, but I think it would be better to limit the activity feed somehow. I don't like the idea of limiting it to latest friends, though, as it is (mostly) my oldest friends that I stalk...

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Princess Blondie
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I have only bout 30 friends, but I'd not wanna be restricted to who I added if I happen to add more people. This is a social site, isn't it? That's part of havin friends, even some as many as 1000 or some with just 30.
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Another performance tweak I'm working on is capping the number of friends you can add. At the moments its unlimited, which can open up a world of pain trying to aggregate your activity feeds. All the cool sites are doing it, FB and Twitter have limits (although they have got better at it).

So I'm thinking of 200 is a good number, this will impact ~800 of you extreme socialites.









dude... you're killing me here. you've seen my friends list right? as for activity feed, i actually monitor mine so i can keep my finger on the pulse of what needs to happen here. sounds silly, i know, but i actually have a good idea of what's going on here, even with people i only interact with once in a blue moon, and it sort of helps me do "my job" as well as makes me available to authors, should they have questions, comments, etc. just my two cents, but yeah, not liking the proposed changes.

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Capping the friend limit wouldn't do it as said above. It is a social site after all and some of the more popular writers would always get the attention from the followers whom you cannot always turn down.

Activity feed can be restricted like it has been down with the private messages to a few days only. Right now my page shows activity feeds of 33 pages. Clipping off even 10 pages from every profile and bringing it down to 20 ? I have never even gone back more than 2-3 pages at once on the activities.

Also there are some members who are constantly active and posting comments in numerous profiles every day. Appreciate their efforts in being social but guess not everybody needs every single notification about those comments. Maybe an option to block activity feeds from such members while allowing the similar feeds from others ?

And from personal experience (not sure if it is applicable to everyone else), when you're new on the site you want to look/be more active and achieve milestones. Badges are one of them and Socialite badge is an easy one. It is rather insignificant and members (atleast I did in my previous profile) keep adding friends till they get the badge. So either discard the Socialite badge or bring the number of friends needed down from 100 ?

Small changes but multiplied by number of profiles they may help
Cocolicious
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Either restriction doesn't bother me. I have too many friends and I often delete people from the list. I'd like to interact with everyone on the list but time and general disinterest doesn't allow me to. If the activity feed was limited I wouldn't miss anything as I normally use mine just to see if my friends have posted stories.

Edited: That sounds really bad. It isn't that I'm not interested in people, it's that what most people want to talk about, I might not interested in. Some folks are just too damn horny lmao...
Cocolicious
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Either restriction doesn't bother me. I have too many friends and I often delete people from the list. I'd like to interact with everyone on the list but time and general disinterest doesn't allow me to. If the activity feed was limited I wouldn't miss anything as I normally use mine just to see if my friends have posted stories.
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I much prefer myself as social-lite. I'm not much into friend squeezer pleaser. To many baskets lets the pests annoy
Alpha Blonde
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God, I don't even know how many people are on my friend list but I'm sure it's well over the 200 allotment. Personally I would rather shut off or limit my activity feed than start the mess of deleting people. I don't even look at my activity feed as it is.
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I have a reasonably large friend list. A lot of those have added me because of stories and so forth and I'd be reluctant to delete people even though I might not interact with them so often...

A reduced activity feed would suit me. I really only want to see people's story comments (I'll quite often go on and read what they've read), and forum posts too, I'll quite often check to see what my friends are up to in there.

I mostly check out my "what you've missed" page, that's my favourite just now.

I'd suggest that maybe you would limit the choice to only some of the filters to show on your profile page? Personally I'm not that interested on which pictures or profiles people have commented on and I would happily omit those from my feed. Maybe gold members could select a couple more, as a benefit of the subscription?

I've already got images and videos turned off in my feed and I usually only click to see which forum posts, new stories and story comments have been made...
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I mostly check out my "what you've missed" page, that's my favourite just now.


I'd imagine that's exactly where gav's problems are coming from hence why it was down for about a week.

Iterating though hundreds of non-indexed select queries chews up server time. Maybe it would help if there was a way of "hibernating" inactive accounts so that activity lists only bother checking active accounts.

I'd also imagine the forum replies facility on the timeline slows things down more than anything else
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I have a reasonably large friend list. A lot of those have added me because of stories and so forth and I'd be reluctant to delete people even though I might not interact with them so often...

A reduced activity feed would suit me. I really only want to see people's story comments (I'll quite often go on and read what they've read), and forum posts too, I'll quite often check to see what my friends are up to in there.

I mostly check out my "what you've missed" page, that's my favourite just now.

I'd suggest that maybe you would limit the choice to only some of the filters to show on your profile page? Personally I'm not that interested on which pictures or profiles people have commented on and I would happily omit those from my feed. Maybe gold members could select a couple more, as a benefit of the subscription?

I've already got images and videos turned off in my feed and I usually only click to see which forum posts, new stories and story comments have been made...


Well said Maz, yeah you are right I don't need to see who is posting which pics ect and to whom, its annoying and takes up half my page, I personally have mine turned off aswell, for my friends benefit as I know how annoying it can be.

Id deal with that issue Gav, Like Maz I only really need to see which forums my friends are posting in as I enjoy reading their posts and if they are reading a story that may interest me. Restricting who you can be friends with in my view doesn't equal social network...just sayin xo
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Alpha Blonde
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Ok - I just counted out of curiosity. I have 875 friends.

A friend-cap would just be cruel.
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Another performance tweak I'm working on is capping the number of friends you can add. At the moments its unlimited, which can open up a world of pain trying to aggregate your activity feeds. All the cool sites are doing it, FB and Twitter have limits (although they have got better at it).

So I'm thinking of 200 is a good number, this will impact ~800 of you extreme socialites.









Could this what's causing me to get a "general error" whenever I try to go to my profile page?



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Cheeky Chick
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I have almost 200 friends, and though I don’t interact with them all, all the time. I do try my best to stay in touch with them as often as I can. Some add me for just for the mere matter of liking my stories, others because of the forums or chat rooms, etc.

I'm not that interested on which pictures or profiles people have commented on, and I have a few friends who spam all their friends’ photos and it bogs up my feed. It does irk me. I wouldn't want to delete people because of this; I just think some things should be hidden, such as this so no one sees it. The said person will see it on their time line; it’s no one else’s business if X made a comment on O’s photo but those two people. Nor is it anyone else’s concern if O posts a photo on X’s wall.

I think those two things are the biggest boggers on my news feed. I just don’t think that removing friends or having a restriction is the right way to go. As other stated, this is a social networking site and some might think 200 friends is a lot, whereas some others might not at all. I’ve seen some people will well over 800 even 1000 friends. How do you ask those people to cut down to just 100 or so friends?

Honestly, I’d be fine with just seeing on news feed who has posted a story and their blogs. Everything else is nothing I really care to know about. Sometimes I see someone post in a forum that looks interesting, and I’ll go because of it, whereas some spam the forums and fill the feed, making it annoying. That’s why I have so much of my stuff private, so I don’t bog up others news feed.

That’s just my two cents. Please don’t take our friends away…
Code Monkey
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Trying to retro fit these kind of limits is always going to be hard *sigh*

Reducing the amount of activity displayed isn’t going to help. In order to show the most recent activity we need to aggregate the activity of ALL friends then slice the top records.

Perhaps 200 was a little optimistic  Maybe a cap that would not affect any of our current users but would at least give an upper bounds and deterministic performance. I think 1000 is reasonable.

I bet there isn’t a social site out there that has unlimited friends. Facebook has 5,000 but they have 180k servers and thousands of programmers
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Trying to retro fit these kind of limits is always going to be hard *sigh*

Reducing the amount of activity displayed isn’t going to help. In order to show the most recent activity we need to aggregate the activity of ALL friends then slice the top records.

Perhaps 200 was a little optimistic  Maybe a cap that would not affect any of our current users but would at least give an upper bounds and deterministic performance. I think 1000 is reasonable.

I bet there isn’t a social site out there that has unlimited friends. Facebook has 5,000 but they have 180k servers and thousands of programmers





Seriously mate u have the weirdest avatar I have EVER seen Its awesome pmsl xo

1000 seems fair to me, doubt ill ever even make 100 tbh. You know what tho forget whatever I have posted prior to this, Gav you do whatever u need to do babes to stop Lush crashing. It just crashed for ages and I was so bored pmsl ....new friends can be overated
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Cheeky Chick
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I don't know all the ins and outs of what you have to do to make it work, but I know 200 friends is a major blow to a lot of people. Especially mods and authors. Maybe 1000 might be best, though I do know some who have that many. I just barely keep up with my 160.

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Reducing the amount of activity displayed isn’t going to help.
Can we still have an option to hide this? It is rather annoying. Not to get off the subject at hand.
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Trying to retro fit these kind of limits is always going to be hard *sigh*

Reducing the amount of activity displayed isn’t going to help. In order to show the most recent activity we need to aggregate the activity of ALL friends then slice the top records.

Perhaps 200 was a little optimistic  Maybe a cap that would not affect any of our current users but would at least give an upper bounds and deterministic performance. I think 1000 is reasonable.

I bet there isn’t a social site out there that has unlimited friends. Facebook has 5,000 but they have 180k servers and thousands of programmers


I know someone with over 1,000 - she's a feisty one
Artistic Tart
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Is there a better Electronic Pop band name than "Too Much Socialite"? I think not.
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I've often wanted to turn off particular notifications on my activity feed, like we can for ourselves so they don't show on our friends feeds. I don't ever go back to look at the parts of the feed I've missed, but like the fact it's there when I'm online. That option would save me from having to look at "Mr X made a comment on......" 200 times in a row.

Would this help?
Her Royal Spriteness
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Quote by gav
Trying to retro fit these kind of limits is always going to be hard *sigh*

Reducing the amount of activity displayed isn’t going to help. In order to show the most recent activity we need to aggregate the activity of ALL friends then slice the top records.

Perhaps 200 was a little optimistic  Maybe a cap that would not affect any of our current users but would at least give an upper bounds and deterministic performance. I think 1000 is reasonable.

I bet there isn’t a social site out there that has unlimited friends. Facebook has 5,000 but they have 180k servers and thousands of programmers





umm... lol - i DO feel for you Gav, but yeah, seriously, i passed teh 1000 mark a long time ago. i'd be happy to weed it down to that, but still, you're killing me here! smile would it help if i sent you more photos? i have some of me with a light saber. that's it, just me and a light saber. and a smile. :)

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I know someone with over 1,000 - she's a feisty one


*mumbles about sassy english bus dodging lesbians and goes back to being anti-social*

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The Resident Princess
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Maybe throw the story commented and scored in its own tab...so that if you want to see you get to...or make it say blank scored/commented on blah story. I can see where a cap is bad, but for the average user (not a mod, maybe even gold members) you can let them have say 500 for regulars and like more for gold and then unlimited for mods. just my 2 cents
Lollipop Girl
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I think it maybe easier to just be able to have users hide activity so that way that person doesnt have to see it. Would that work at all?
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I think it maybe easier to just be able to have users hide activity so that way that person doesnt have to see it. Would that work at all?


Congratulations on your 1,500th post!

Do you mean each individual user could hide the activity log completely? Or certain aspects of it? I like seeing some activity, but not all the photo comments on another user's photos. I'm only really interested in seeing who is around when I log in, and my Timeline.

Or did you mean that we all help Gav by choosing that setting by default because it's easier? I'll do it for a gingerbread cookie (not because I wouldn't do it for Gav, but I just want a cookie)!

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