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Vaginal or clitoral orgasm?

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http://www.hitchedmag.com/article.php?id=221 hmmm, tricky one this

The Orgasm Debate
It’s been studied for more than a hundred years and yet science hasn’t been able to decipher what kind of orgasm is better: vaginal or clitoral?
BY DR. TRINA READ

For a hundred years there has been an on going debate with sex researchers, feminists and pop-culture as to what is superior—the vaginal or clitoral orgasm. Regrettably, this orgasm debate has left many women wondering whether the orgasm she is experiencing is the real or best one.

What's The Difference?
First of all, what is the difference between a vaginal and clitoral orgasm? The clitoral orgasm is achieved by direct stimulation of the clitoris. Orgasms are triggered by fingers, tongue, sex toys, or by masturbation and are more intense because the stimulation is localized. Clitoral orgasms are typically described as "higher" and "intense" and can be accompanied by a sense of over stimulation.

A vaginal orgasm is achieved via stimulation of the vagina canal, which includes the G-Spot, the lower interior vaginal walls and the cervix. Vaginal orgasms are usually described as "deep" and "relaxing", and can be followed by a profound sense of calm. Orgasms during intercourse are often less acute.

Vaginal Orgasm's Rise In Popularity
It was Sigmund Freud who first suggested that there were two types of orgasms. He theorized the orgasm experienced through clitoral stimulation was the precursor of a deeper, more satisfying orgasm experienced in the vagina during penetration by the penis.

According to Freud, the vaginal orgasm was a feminine and mature sexual response, while the clitoral orgasm was masculine, immature and inferior. In essence, a married woman, who loved her husband, was supposed to naturally "transfer" the pleasurable feelings she had from her clitoris to her vagina during penile penetration.

Unfortunately, it was of no consequence that Freud did not have any scientific proof; this whole idea was concocted by his powers of supposing.

Freud and his disciples took the vaginal orgasm idea and wrote many papers on the topic thereby making it "scientifically" sound. As such, the hard-to-win-over scientific and medical communities embraced the superior vaginal orgasm.

For more than half a century, women tried unsuccessfully to be good lovers by transferring their inferior clitoral orgasm to the mature vagina. Not surprisingly, many women ended up in therapy with Freud and his disciples to help them deal with this "sexual dysfunction."

The Fight Against Freud
In the 1940s, sex researcher Dr. Alfred Kinsey took thousands of men and women’s sex histories. Through his interviews, Kinsey found women could not and were not having vaginal orgasms as Freud preached. Kinsey lashed out on Freud’s ideas. Unfortunately, his book was written for academics and did not appeal to the average reader.

Then in the 1960s, sex researchers Masters and Johnson decided to test Kinsey’s theory in the laboratory. Masters and Johnson observed women’s sexual response to different stimulation and found that the majority of their subjects could only achieve clitoral orgasm, while a small minority achieved vaginal orgasm.

Masters and Johnson’s findings coincided with the feminist movement. Feminists were infuriated that Freud, one man, could have messed up women’s minds, orgasms and sex lives for so many generations. Feminists went on a campaign to gain back the respect for clitoral orgasm.

The fight was not an easy one. For example, Dr. Mary Jane Sherfey, Freudian trained psychiatrist published The Nature and Evolution of Female Sexuality in 1966. Bravely her book questioned then disproved Freud’s orgasm theory. The hostility from the scientific community was immense.

Thank goodness today most women do feel comfortable having a clitoral orgasm. However, there is still a lot of confusion and misunderstanding surrounding whether women are missing out on the bigger vaginal orgasm experience.

Today's Debate
Where do some of these misunderstandings come from? Part of it is triggered by pop-culture’s latest craze of promoting the G-Spot orgasm as superior to a clitoral orgasm. As well, romance novels and movies often depict woman being completely orgasmic with no foreplay and only penile penetration.

I have spoken to many women who wonder what is wrong with them that they cannot have a G-Spot orgasm or cannot get turned-on by simple penile thrusting. I always reassure them the majority of women are only able to orgasm via stimulation of the clitoris.

Which Is Better: Vaginal Or Clitoral?
The question remains, is there a best kind of orgasm? The answer would have to be absolutely not. An orgasm is an orgasm is an orgasm, regardless of how it manifests itself. The bottom line is, it does not matter how a woman climaxes so long as she enjoys herself in the process.

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http://www.hitchedmag.com/article.php?id=221 hmmm, tricky one this

The Orgasm Debate
It’s been studied for more than a hundred years and yet science hasn’t been able to decipher what kind of orgasm is better: vaginal or clitoral?
BY DR. TRINA READ


Which Is Better: Vaginal Or Clitoral?
The question remains, is there a best kind of orgasm? The answer would have to be absolutely not. An orgasm is an orgasm is an orgasm, regardless of how it manifests itself. The bottom line is, it does not matter how a woman climaxes so long as she enjoys herself in the process.



I suppose that "DR TRINA" is both a doctor of some kind (but there are many kinds) and a female.

I do agree with the final paragraph that an orgasm is an orgasm is an orgasm and that as we women vary in our emotional and sexual characteristics, an orgasm is very likely to vary in intensity and nature from woman to woman. So the whole alleged academic study is worthless.

I absolutely know without a shadow of a doubt the best kind of orgasms are the ones I have, and never mind all this blethering by the academics, most of whom seem to be men getting off on their 'researches' and 'writings.' LOL - They can't have a female orgasm or know or even imagine what it is like - why don't they write about themselves and male orgasms I wonder? I also wonder how many orgasms they surreptitiously achieve whilst writing about us hee hee hee. Gallons and gallons worth I would guess. One can hear the cry as they work "Pass me another bucket I'm starting the next chapter gasp gasp gasp."
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Who cares? Well someone had to do the male joke response

You're funny Susan
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Which orgasm is best? The one my wife has when I make love to er. No other orgasm is better for me than the ones I give her.
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How come you guys get two types AND way more nerve endings? I want to be a woman. Then again if I was a woman Id want to be a man so I could fuck women.
I'm really getting sick of auto-correct's shirt.
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How come you guys get two types AND way more nerve endings? I want to be a woman. Then again if I was a woman Id want to be a man so I could fuck women.


This is why I think it would be fun to be a shape shifter. I could transform to either male or female and know how it feels for both sexes. I've fantasized about this from time to time.
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Both are enjoyable, depends on the choice smile
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This is why I think it would be fun to be a shape shifter. I could transform to either male or female and know how it feels for both sexes. I've fantasized about this from time to time.


You know the myth of the Greek seer Tireisias? He lived for seven years as woman due to pissing off Hera (pissing off deities leads to interesting stuff in Greek myths).

Later, Zeus and Hera (you know where this is going, don't you?) were arguing about who enjoyed sex more. Hera said it was the man, Zeus the woman. So they called in Tireisias, since he had been both. The prophet answered something like "of ten parts, man enjoys only one". Hera flew into a rage and struck him blind (told you). In recompense, Zeus gave him the gifts of foresight and long life. Now, why Hera was supporting the position that men enjoy sex more, I'm not sure. Her marriage to Zeus was pretty seriously dysfunctional (hard to say if it would work better as a soap opera or a sitcom) so maybe it speaks more to that than anything about normal men and women.

(as with many Greek myths, this is only one version)
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Personally, I think the clitoral orgasm is more intense and less painful the vaginal.
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Either, so long as I am getting enough of them.