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We've never been able to do anal, despite the fact of trying(To big). BUT HELL to the fucking NO!!! I wouldn't ask her to do that, nor would I want her to do that.
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Yes, I have. So then he can do my pussy to please me after pleasing him with my arse.
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Dancing_Doll wrote:What I find hilarious is that soooo many people on this site are all for having a little tongue in the ass, but Ass-to-Mouth is met with a resounding "oh em gee - how unsanitary" level-10 shock-factor... how is it that one is ok, but the other is taboo?
It's all personal preference, but the human body can tolerate more 'bacteria' than you think, and most people would be surprised at how much they accidentally ingest from things like fruits/veggies, eating at restaurants and even using your toothbrush if you don't close the lid every time you flush. If you have properly cleansed ahead of time and use plenty of lube, his dick should be pretty clean except for a glossy mess of lube and cum after an anal cream-pie. I don't think people look to do this after every round of anal, but once in a while it's really no big deal - and such a kinky turn-on to continue the psychological arousal that will lead to another session of hot, sweaty, dirty fucking ... instead of taking a break to shower and de-sanitize each other with anti-bacterial agents before starting again.
I had no idea there were so many paranoid germ-a-phobes on the site... lol
100% win. saliva kills a wide range of bacteria on contact, in case you people didnt know.
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I had no idea there were so many paranoid germ-a-phobes on the site... lol
I think it's great that we all have a varying difference of opinions. Some say yes, it is safe even without a condom - some say, FFS a simple burst of water is not going to kill germs. This is not about being a paranoid germ-a phobe, but concerns. I like the fact that we can all state our opinion. I like to think that someone that is less experienced or even totally innocent with an inquiring mind will come in here and get all the facts before adventuring or considering something like this. If they read all opinions, and if they still had any concerns/questions, they can explore the matter further on the net or even ask their doctor (as I have and was told, no condom is a no-no) if it is considered safe or not. If we ALL came in here and said yes - be that for the truth, or to look good, then that could give the wrong impression. We shouldn't be afraid to state our concerns - after all, this is what makes Lush special lol.
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Mìstress_Latexìa wrote:
I think it's great that we all have a varying difference of opinions. Some say yes, it is safe even without a condom - some say, FFS a simple burst of water is not going to kill germs. This is not about being a paranoid germ-a phobe, but concerns.
I like the fact that we can all state our opinion. I like to think that someone that is less experienced or even totally innocent with an inquiring mind will come in here and get all the facts before adventuring or considering something like this. If they read all opinions, and if they still had any concerns/questions, they can explore the matter further on the net or even ask their doctor (as I have and was told, no condom is a no-no) if it is considered safe or not. If we ALL came in here and said yes - be that for the truth, or to look good, then that could give the wrong impression.
We shouldn't be afraid to state our concerns - after all, this is what makes Lush special lol.
As you know I'm all for giving opinions, as I was giving mine too. I felt that in this particular thread, the ass-to-mouth people were being unfairly ganged up on and I wanted to defend the underdogs. That way everyone feels comfortable giving their opinions without fearing their sexual practices or kinks will be condemned or judged, as was happening earlier in the thread if you read through the entire thing.
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Dancing_Doll wrote:As you know I'm all for giving opinions, as I was giving mine too. I felt that in this particular thread, the ass-to-mouth people were being unfairly ganged up on and I wanted to defend the underdogs. That way everyone feels comfortable giving their opinions without fearing their sexual practices or kinks will be condemned or judged, as was happening earlier in the thread if you read through the entire thing. I think if you read back, you will see that many were voicing their concerns at the 'claims' that a simple douche was enough to consider this practice safe - we never condemned or judged as you said, we voiced that we wouldn't do it personally but we, I admit, did focus on the claims it is clean. Defend??? I don't think the ass-to-mouth were unfairly ganged up upon at all and would never consider them nor you an underdog (mind you, I do love that word - you have probably seen it on my profile LOL) Questioned yes, ganged up no. What you may have missed is that none of the safe crowd bothered to get personal and called us things like 'paranoid germ-a-phobes' - rather than something like people who are concerned about safe sex. How is someone supposed to feel comfortable about giving their opinions after reading something like that? Just asking.
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Mìstress_Latexìa wrote:I think if you read back, you will see that many were voicing their concerns at the 'claims' that a simple douche was enough to consider this practice safe - we never condemned or judged as you said, we voiced that we wouldn't do it personally but we, I admit, did focus on the claims it is clean. Defend??? I don't think the ass-to-mouth were unfairly ganged up upon at all and would never consider them nor you an underdog (mind you, I do love that word - you have probably seen it on my profile LOL) Questioned yes, ganged up no. What you may have missed is that none of the safe crowd bothered to get personal and called us things like 'paranoid germ-a-phobes' - rather than something like people who are concerned about safe sex. How is someone supposed to feel comfortable about giving their opinions after reading something like that? Just asking. *Sigh* Ok, I'll play along (this time) and condense a few of the judgmental comments for you in this thread: - "gross, yuck, barf, gag" - "many of you need to cease any sexual activity and retake Sex 101" - "jeez, what is the deal in the forums here for people to think it's ok to (do this)" - "Seriously I feel like I just lost precious minutes of my life reading some of the idiotic responses" - *GAGGGGGGINNNG* Apply any of those comments to a thread on BDSM or watersports or any other sexual kink, and maybe you'll see how it might dissuade people who do it from posting on the forums - something that two other people already noted before I even posted. Hopefully that clears up the confusion for you.
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yea all the judgemental comments were comming from the "clean side" of this conversation for a long while... to the point where one girl asked if she was weird that it didnt bother her to do it...
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Dancing_Doll wrote:*Sigh* Ok, I'll play along (this time) and condense a few of the judgmental comments for you in this thread: - "gross, yuck, barf, gag" - "many of you need to cease any sexual activity and retake Sex 101" - "jeez, what is the deal in the forums here for people to think it's ok to (do this)" - "Seriously I feel like I just lost precious minutes of my life reading some of the idiotic responses" - *GAGGGGGGINNNG* Apply any of those comments to a thread on BDSM or watersports or any other sexual kink, and maybe you'll see how it might dissuade people who do it from posting on the forums - something that two other people already noted before I even posted. Hopefully that clears up the confusion for you. I'm not saying all this to get a response from you, but if you feel it is a game, then I can't stop you feeling that way, because I am not playing one.  But, I am glad that my fight to have any member to have a self opinionated thought on here without being responded to with personal attacks/replies, is getting through. So thank you DD for coming on board - "gross, yuck, barf, gag" I would say that is just a self opinionated response on how they feel on the matter and that it was not directed at those that practice it. - "many of you need to cease any sexual activity and retake Sex 101" I say this was because of the safe sex debate and again not directed at any member but the issue of safety. - "jeez, what is the deal in the forums here for people to think it's ok to (do this)" see above - "Seriously I feel like I just lost precious minutes of my life reading some of the idiotic responses" see above - *GAGGGGGGINNNG* see first response. Maybe one more coffee and I will be less confused LOL. Please note: Just so we can be clear, I would do this myself - but only if the guy was wearing a condom first and removed it prior to inserting into my mouth. I am not against the act, just the health side of it.
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Mìstress_Latexìa wrote:
Maybe one more coffee and I will be less confused LOL.
You may want to stick to decaf...
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Dancing_Doll wrote:You may want to stick to decaf... Nah, that would be too boring
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but the safe sex debate in this forum is grounded in the ass to mouth activity. it really seems like what you want all these people who preform this in their personal lives to retake sex 101 as if they are doing something wrong when really they are just doing something you dont like to do.
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No way!
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Yes we both suck each others dick, her strapon and mine. But we are both clean before we start.
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No way, not my thing...I dont care how clean.
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I agree with those that say it's not safe.... The anal canal carries LOTs of nasties that don't belong in the mouth or the vagina...
Always use a condom for anal penetration and toss the condom and you should also carefully clean the penis before putting it anyplace else even if the condom is used... This is extremely dangerous...
Googling this up will make you never want to do it again without good protection and strict sanitizing.
Forget what you see in porn videos... It's simply not safe and crazy to even do once...
I'm a pretty open minded guy but when you mess with the anus you're messing with a dangerous place.
Great minds think alike but dirty minds work together.... ;)
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I was the first person lee has done ATM with and she has no problem with it. She does keep herself very clean as part of our lifestyle but even still, there are bacteria from which she's never had an adverse reaction. So, whatever floats your boat. For some it works and for others it doesn't. Enjoy and play safe.
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No.
I get why people think it's uncool not to, but it's just too much of a hazard for me. Been through a bunch of medical training (not a doctor or a nurse, though), and I'm just not comfortable doing things I know are a huge infection risk. Wear a condom for anal, take it off when you want me to suck your dick. Problem solved.
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Dancing_Doll wrote:What I find hilarious is that soooo many people on this site are all for having a little tongue in the ass, but Ass-to-Mouth is met with a resounding "oh em gee - how unsanitary" level-10 shock-factor... how is it that one is ok, but the other is taboo?
It's all personal preference, but the human body can tolerate more 'bacteria' than you think, and most people would be surprised at how much they accidentally ingest from things like fruits/veggies, eating at restaurants and even using your toothbrush if you don't close the lid every time you flush. If you have properly cleansed ahead of time and use plenty of lube, his dick should be pretty clean except for a glossy mess of lube and cum after an anal cream-pie. I don't think people look to do this after every round of anal, but once in a while it's really no big deal - and such a kinky turn-on to continue the psychological arousal that will lead to another session of hot, sweaty, dirty fucking ... instead of taking a break to shower and de-sanitize each other with anti-bacterial agents before starting again.
I had no idea there were so many paranoid germ-a-phobes on the site... lol
I know everyone on Lush loves you Dancing Doll, but must you always be right? Right on little Sister.
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I get that the human body can stand up to it. For me it's mostly an "ick" factor, I suppose, but I worry about the other infections and whatnot as well. On the other hand, I don't really like a tongue on or in my asshole either. It feels unpleasant to me, and I know that I don't enjoy it. Very few things make me say that, and this is one. I realize now I sounded a little judgmental in my last post. And to be fair, I am sometimes a bit of a paranoid microphobe.
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Honestly, I don't have a huge problem with it because if I engaged in anal sex, I would be prepared so sucking my partner afterward, shouldn't be a problem. If he's fine with it, so am I.
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Done it many times but never if his cock was clearly dirty, which is very rare.
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To each their own.....but for me it's a big old absolutely not
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i do and i don't see what the big deal is, i stay clean and it is such a turn on for me and most guys
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Count me in on the crazy/risky/adventurous side of this issue. Sure, use common sense, but if we're delving into some risk already, a bit of oral afterward doesn't seem like it's moving the line very far.
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If he was wearing a condom, and he's removed it, sure. Otherwise, ick. There are certain things that just don't appeal to me, and that's one of them. Recommended Reads by TheScheherezadeFeint:Undeniable - Erotic Poem Disappearing Act - Love Poem Synthetic Hours - Fantasy/Sci-fi - Eighth Place, 'Some Like It Hot' competition, January 2015Night Work - Erotic Poem Eating Breakfast In Glass Slippers - Straight Sex - Fifth Place, 'The Morning After The Night Before' competition, November 2014Miracle of Night - Love Poem The Brightest Black You've Ever Seen - Love Story - Ninth place, 'Toy With Me' competition, September 2014Scream Fire - Erotic Poem - Audio read by MadameMollyAt First Sight (He) - Quickie Sex
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I am not into anal things anyway. I am not into scat play. A lot of "natural" things I do NOT have any problem with sexually. That is just not one that appeals to me, (even if it "looked" clean and had no odor, I just would not particularly want that anyway, bad bacteria or no.)
I see people [on another forum] who will not pee in their own shower and think that is all "Ewww" and yet here, I guess I am in the opposite.. MssTreeNymph wrote:Anal gets such a bad rep! To those who haven't tried it it is in no way messy! All you need is a good enema (which is not as bad as it seems, its like a douche for your butt just make sure your well lubricated) to make sure your clean and your ready to go! Bada Boom Bada Bing ~That does not even remotely sound like a turn-on to me. For me, I will PASS.
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I spent more years then I like to count in dentistry and I saw and treated a lot of diseases from oral sex. Please let me give you another side to the question from my years of experience: Don't fucking do it raw.
Okay now here's the background for you to understand me:
Diseases and ailments come down to the immune system. The immune system of almost all normal healthy people who engage in unprotected and even protected (if you don’t wash after removing the protection) anal/oral sex will be able to combat any bacteria such as E. coli.
We’re all aware that E. coli getting into the vagina or urethra can lead to bladder/kidney infections. Again, a good immune system will more than likely counteract the infection, or if needed a round of antibiotics will knock it out.
However, there is one area most people overlook when in engaging in oral/anal/vaginal sex - it is the gingiva/gums in the mouth. Adult mouths may contain 500 to 1,000 different types of bacteria as part of the human fora, oral microbiology, but about 100 to 200 species may live in them at any given time.
Those who care for their teeth and have a relatively clean mouth have 1,000 to 100,000 bacteria living on each tooth surface. Those that do not have a clean mouth have between 100 million and 1 billion bacteria on each tooth.
Each day more bacteria grows in a person’s mouth. Though bacteria and saliva can be beneficial to one’s health, both can also cause problems. Many diseases are related to oral bacteria.
It takes approximately 20 minutes for the bacteria within the mouth to recolonize after brushing and flossing.
The estimate of people who have gingivitis - not just from not brushing, but especially from not flossing is estimated somewhere between 50-80% of the population.
Gingivitis > periodontal disease. CDC’s conservative estimate of people who have perio is 50% of the population over 30.
Gingivitis is an infection under the gums, like perio it is a quiet disease. Now, you wouldn’t knowingly put your cock (or allow an infected one in) in an infected pussy or asshole. But, you may be exposing your cock/pussy or asshole to an infected mouth if they have gingivitis or perio.
Gingivitis/perio is an infection under the gums that opens and leaves a direct access for bacteria to the bloodstream.
Bacteria in the bloodstream = bacteremia.
Bacteremia may cause no symptoms and resolve without treatment, or it may produce fever and other symptoms of infection. Sometimes, bacteremia leads to septic shock, a potentially life-threatening condition. Blood borne diseases affect all the organs in the body especially the heart.
The pathogens most like to cause bacteremia are members of the Staphylococcus, Streptococcus, Pseudomonas, Haemophilus, and Esherichia coli (E. coli).
People say they disinfect the areas with mouthwash, or antibacterial wipes. What antibacterial wipes do is kill the good bacteria, but do NOT kill the pathogens.
Pathogens need to be treated through sterilization. I assure you any method of sterilizing human tissue is done using methods that are destructive to soft tissue and/or will not leave the surface conducive to sex. An added complication with an antibacterial wipe is that if the good bacteria are killed then the pathogens reproduce more rapidly because the ‘normal flora’- good bacteria - has been killed off.
The anus has the most dangerous bacteria, the external surface has the largest amount, but the largest variety of bacteria is in the mouth. Bacteria found in the mouth are: Streptococci and staphylococci and are some of the most widely known, and those associated with some of the most serious diseases.
Because of the amount of bacteria and viruses in each person’s mouth, there is a transfer of bacteria through saliva or anything else shared. Some of these viruses that result are relatively inconsequential while others could potentially have a serious impact on one’s life. Examples of the milder diseases passed through saliva and exchange of other bodily fluids include herpes simplex virus, flu virus, cold virus, and various bacteria that cause periodontal disease venereal diseases, and candida albicans. Mononucleosis (mono) can come through bodily fluid exchange. Streptococcus mutans, a common oral bacteria is a pathogen that causes pneumonia, sinusitis, otitis media, and meningitis.
Also in the mouth is a common oral bacteria, F. nucleatum. In the mouth on its own it’s inert. But, once it enters the bloodstream it acts like a key to open a door in human blood vessels and leads the way for it and other bacteria like E. coli to invade the body bypassing the immune system and setting up it’s colonies.
End of lecture.
Y’all play nice now, and have fun.
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Being in the medical field NEVER!
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