A month ago our "President" died, so after 14 years of a totalitarism government we saw a little light at the end of the tunnel, yesterday we had our presidential elections, and after a very dirty, unfair, extortion and horrible use of our countries money, we the opposition still won the elections. But the CNE the ones in charge of the elections, said that we didnt and lied about the numbers. Yesterday it was asked for a recount and both candidates agreed to it. Today we learned that that is not going to happen and that Maduro (Chavez successor) is gonna be recognize as the president of Venezuela, even though people is asking for a recount.

Today they are burning and stealing all the acts and proves that we actually won the elections.






Yes that's actually our own militars, and NO they are not suposse to be moving those boxes full of our votes.

I guess this is not a lets comment kind of thread, more of a cry for help so more people really knows whats happening here. Right now people are going to the streets to fight for their rights, and in a few minutes im going to. Hopefully it will stay peacefully.

Heartbreaking. I can't think of anything else to say.

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Same thing happened in another American country to the North of you in 2000. Only there the Governor of the state where the election was disputed was the brother of one of the candidates and he made sure that there would not be the recount required by law, aided and abetted by five corrupt judges on the Supreme court.

The problem in Venezuela is linked. The US attempt to mount a coup against Chavez during the Bush regime when Chavez clearly had democratic legitimacy has become the pretext for some extremely un-democratic moves. It has also delegitimized much of the opposition which was implicated in an act of treason.

George W. Bush could make a muck of things pretty much everywhere he acted.

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God bless, l. f. It's hard for me to say "stay safe", from here in my ivory tower, but still... stay safe. I hope things don't change too much for the worse for you.

In so many countries we take our democracy and freedom for granted, as a given right, which of course it should be. Your post makes me so sad LF, keep resisting and keep raising awareness of the realities of what you and your fellow countrymen are going through. Prayers xx

Yes WMM you are not gonna find much information about it, because as Byron said the opposition is still paying for a mistake we made 11 years ago. So even though all that i said here is the sad truth, most countries still think that we just want to do a coup against the government.

And that was true in 2002 but that is not the situation right now, a lot can happen to a country in 11 years. But we are still been blame for everything even if the government are the actual guilty ones.

We are trying to get as much awarness to the situation and as much international help as we can, so im leaving a few online request for you guys if you want you can sign. Are they all true or have i verify them? no, i havent have time but as i say we need as much help as we can even if some are not true a lot of them are.

Thank You

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/call-upon-international-community-urge-full-recount-votes-be-done-venezuelas-presidential-elections/0MNp0Bys

http://secure.campaigner.com/Campaigner/Public/t.show?5cxvq--2pqmz-of0jwu9&_v=2

http://www.change.org/petitions/in-english-below-que-la-oea-exija-el-conteo-del-100-de-los-votos-de-las-elecciones-en-venezuela

http://www.avaaz.org/es/petition/Reconteo_Manual_de_votos_en_Elecciones_Presidenciales_de_Venezuela/?pv=7

When we vote in Venezuela you get 3 different steps of the voting system 1. Its the electronic vote you do on a machine 2. Its a paper that this machine prints saying the person you voted for, you put this piece of paper on a box 3. A book you sign and put your finger print on, saying that you voted, the first page of this book says how many people should vote in that machine.

When they do the automatic recount the only thing they validate is that the amount of votes that the machine says, are the same amount that the papers say. What we want is to check all 3 things.

Its has been proven than in a lot of this machines more people have voted, than what the book says it should. Also doing this recount we can make sure that all the places that this votes are coming from are actually legit places and not just machines that where putted on a house where the same person voted a lot of times (yes that last one sounds crazy BUT we have videos and photos proving this, also in the CNE data base they have more than 200 places where people voted only for Maduro, that means no null vote and not one vote for anyone different than Maduro and every single person voted, dont you think thast a little bit odd? Also they want to check that we dont have the same finger print in multiple voting places, and the other thing we want to check is that we have more than 30000 people voting that are over the age of 98, we even have have more than 500 over the age of 120 years old. I mean we should be on the record Guinness for the oldest population in the wold alive!

there is more things that happened while the elections took place that we are not even complainning about, like assisted votes (what is that you say?) well when the person goes to vote, someone "helps" them voting, this is used for old people or people with some kind of discapability. Not in this elections, this was also used for people that work for the government or have been given houses or things like that. In the video im posting you can see how the girl looks completely healthy, and yet this guy wearing red (the color of the government) is staying with her the whole time while she is voting (this is ILLEGAL) and then when she goes he is writing something on a piece of paper. This is one of the many videos we have like that!



EDIT: Also dont you think its kind of odd, that Maduro actually agreed to do the counting and then backed out and said he needed to ask around to see if they would. Who those he needs to ask permission to do a recount? If they are so sure they won, then why are they so afraid?

Anyone with enough prove can ask for a recount in Venezuela, CNE is the one that decides if the recount is going to be done or not. The CNE is supposed to be an impartial entity, but its really not. For example Tibisay Lucena the president of the CNE the day before the elections in an interview said that the opposition had no chance of winning this elections, also when they where giving an open forum about this elections they were wearing a insignia representing the government. The CNE credentials for journalists for this elections had Chavez and Maduro's faces on them.

So as you can see they are not really that impartial.

what does this have to do with anything. We are not even talking about American politics. All you must have read was the title and jumped to a conclusion so far from reality marvel and dc comics couldn't make the same leap.

Well if im not mistaken we are the biggest supply of oil to the US, so we are really important for you guys, and Chavez and now Maduro are really Anti Americans. But that said, the thing about the coup happen a long time ago and its kind of a theory that US was involve, no one can be sure that you guys did.

What we are living right now, its not done by the US, its just something that was coming from a while, and im actually impress that it took us for Chavez to die, for this big chaos to exploit at our faces.

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Yes we've all noticed that.